Talk:Dhaka Nawab dynasty

List of people
The following names may be added back when their notability is clarified. Otherwise this article would become infested with hundreds of thousands of members of the family, ranging from beggars to bank robbers.


 * Khwaja Mohammed Kaiser (Diplomat)
 * Ali Kaiser Hasan Morshed (Diplomat)
 * Syed Khwaja Alqama (Political Scientist)
 * Khwaja Mohammed Kaiser (Diplomat)
 * Ali Kaiser Hasan Morshed (Diplomat)
 * Syed Khwaja Belal Hassan (International Civil Servant)
 * Khwaja Anas (Accountant)
 * Khwaja Arshad (Accountant)
 * K.M. Manzoor (Doctor)
 * K.M. Moiz (Doctor)
 * Talha Raziuddin (Doctor)
 * Ovais Zubair (Doctor)
 * Syed Ali Madani (Doctor)

Please, do not add names indiscriminately. Not all doctors and diplomats and civil servants have a claim to notability. There are millions of them around the world right at this moment (and, we haven't even got to counting the dead ones). Aditya (talk • contribs) 16:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move
Dhaka Nawab family → Dhaka Nawab Family — According to WP:CAPS, proper nouns are to be capitalized. The current title has a highly irregular way of capitalization, as "Nawab" is capitalized and "family" is not. — Aditya (talk • contribs) 16:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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Discussion

 * Any additional comments:


 * "Dhaka Nawab family" is not a proper noun, just as the Rockefeller family or the Kennedy family are not. If "Nawab" is not properly a part of the name, then perhaps the title should be Dhaka nawab family. older ≠ wiser 17:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * A feudal estate titled by the British Empire is not like the Rockfeller or Kennedy families. It is a legal entity, created by a Waqfnama back in 1854 (see: Sharif Uddin Ahmed, Dacca: A Study in Urban History and Development, page 52, Riverdale, 1986). Dhaka "Nawab Estate" would be a close contender at that. The demonym, the self definition is Family, not Estate, due to certain legal considerations imposed by the East Bengal Estate Acquisition and Tenancy Act of 1950 (see: Muzaffar Ahmed Chaudhuri, Government and Politics in Pakistan, page 257, Puthighar, Dhaka, 1968). Al-Abbasi Noble Family, Monegasque Princely Family or Koch Rajbongshi Royal Family would be more appropriate examples here. Aditya (talk • contribs) 07:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * That makes a great deal of sense to me. I suppose "Dhaka Nawab Family" is parsed as "Dhaka (Nawab Family)", i.e., a Nawab Family governing Dhaka; and not, as many people (such as myself) might think, "(Dhaka Nawab) family", i.e., a family with the surname "Dhaka Nawab"!


 * If I've summarized the situation correctly, then I support the move; but somebody with an expert knowledge of the subject and a good grasp of English needs to go in and clean up the entire article's articles. It starts off "Dhaka Nawab Family reigned...", and later refers to "the Khwaja Nawab family". I suspect that the correct usage is "the X Nawab Family", not "X Nawab Family" and not "the X Nawab family", but it's totally unclear from the article, and that's bad. (Compare The Dagda, where I actually had to read the talk page to find out that "The" was the definite article and not a proper name. :) --Quuxplusone (talk) 05:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * True. But, fixing the title can't depend on that. Right? Aditya (talk • contribs) 12:32, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, this issue is mostly fixed now. Aditya (talk • contribs) 07:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)