Talk:Diabetes/Archive 8

Citation Link Incorrect
The link for citation 35 (Dubois, HFW and Bankauskaite, V (2005). "Type 2 diabetes programmes in Europe" (PDF). Euro Observer 7 (2): 5–6.) is incorrect. The current link directs to http://www.euro.who.int/Document/Obs/EuroObserver7_3.pdf but the correct issue of this publication is actually at http://www.euro.who.int/Document/Obs/EuroObserver7_2.pdf. The one it points to now is about oral health care, and mentions diabetes once, but it is not the article referenced. I'm new to all this, so I don't think I can change it - I just needed the article for a paper and thought maybe someone else could benefit from the link :) Nicolemh 03:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Suggested Citation
I suggest a suitable citation for the "citation needed" in the genetics section is:  Adeqhate E, Schattner P, Dunn E., "An Update on the Etiology and Epidemiology of Diabetes Mellitus." Ann N Y Acad Sci 2006 Nov;1084:1-29.

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EDIT: Epidemiology and Statistics
"In 2006, according to the World Health Organization, at least 171 million people worldwide suffer from diabetes." http://www.who.int/diabetes/facts/world_figures/en/ In 2000, according to the World Health Organization, at least 171 million people worldwide suffer from diabetes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bin Qasim (talk • contribs) 12:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC).

Lead sentence

 * is a metabolic disorder characterized by hyperglycemia (high blood sugar) and other signs, as distinct from a single illness or condition. The World Health Organization recognizes three main forms of diabetes...

The half sentence starting with "as distinct from" is unclear. What does "X is a Y, as distinct from a Z" really mean? Further, aren't the words "disorder" and "illness" pretty much synonymous? [And if there are indeed tiny technical differences, then the reader at this stage cannot be expected to know those, especially since neither disorder or illness are linked to their respective articles.] It seems to me that someone just wanted to emphasize the fact that there's several forms of Diabetes, but that's the content of the very next sentence. So I propose one of the following two versions, depending on how strict you want to be with the definition of "disorder":


 * is a group of metabolic disorders characterized by hyperglycemia (high blood sugar) and other signs. The World Health Organization recognizes three main forms of diabetes...

or


 * is a metabolic disorder characterized by hyperglycemia (high blood sugar) and other signs. The World Health Organization recognizes three main forms of diabetes...

Cheers, AxelBoldt 16:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Vascular disease?
How and why does Diabetes cause vascular disease? The only hint I could find was in Microvascular disease, where it says that the vessel walls become thick and weak, but without explaining the mechanism. AxelBoldt 17:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I got an answer here. AxelBoldt 20:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Causes of type 1
I lack citation, but recent studies have shown that type 1 may be caused by a gastrointestinal retrovirus, atleast in some cases. Zanduar 14:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, if you bring a citation we can discuss it. Sounds a bit speculative. JFW | T@lk  21:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

history facts
Facts presented in Diabetes mellitus history chapter do not fit with facts found in Wikipedia http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae_Paulescu article.


 * Since few of us read romanian, you will have to be a bit more explicit. What are the discrepancies? alteripse 19:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

This article needs update. The ADA has changed the diagnosis of IGT with 75 gm of glucose: 100-125 is consided impaired glucose intolance instead of 110-125. So there are a lot of mistakes due to changes by the ADA.


 * Could you provide a source to the ADA, and why would it supersede the WHO definition presently well accepted? JFW | T@lk  21:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Incretins
Systematic review from JAMA about all new incretin-related drugs such as DPP-4 inhibitors JFW | T@lk  21:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Diabulimia could use your help
Editors of Diabetes: the Diabulimia article could use your help. I am not familiar with the subject myself, only reading about it in the news. Ariel. 16:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * It reads like OR, until you reach the "external links" section that has some useful sources. It needs scrupulous sourcing and NPOV. JFW | T@lk  06:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Mortality trends
looks at mortality and trends in time. I will try to integrate this into the article over the next few days. JFW | T@lk  06:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

African Americans
Regarding "Earlier screening is typically recommended for those with risk factors such as obesity, family history of diabetes, high-risk ethnicity (Mestizo, Native American, African American, Pacific Island, and South Asian ancestry)", is that true for African Americans only, or all people of African origin? (black people) --Jerome Potts 03:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)