Talk:Diagnosis: Murder/Archive 1

Copyright
Copyright holder by email granted the usage. -- Cat chi? 23:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) ===Emails=== You can add it if you like . Can I have a better link? The one I have doesn't work.

-- Original message from User:Coolcat: -- :en.wikipedia.org is worlds largest knowlege database. Your review of the series and probably other serries will greatly enhance the comunity. :Wikipedia is an "everybody can edit" non-profit median. We all work to create a great knowlege base. Topics range from Quantum mechanics to religion and from astrophysics to tv serries. Basicaly all human knowlege. It is prohibited to add licensed material without explicit allowance from license holders, for this case you. I can guide you on how to add material, or add it on my own, crediting you. :At this point I have to confess, I used your work without telling you, wikipedia noticed this and removed the material, however the serries Diagnosis:Murder and many others deserve to be credited by talented people like you. It was stupid for me to pose as talented as you, I know.

- Original Message - From: laura.m.meyer@att.net  To: User:Coolcat Sent: 19 April 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Diagnosis Murder Can you tell me a little more about it?

-- Original message from User:Coolcat: -- Hi, Diagnosis murder was a great show, really. I would like to have your permission to use your work on an online Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. It is a community where we attempt to unite human knowlege. Please let me know what your desicion is, thanks.

==Head== Change head as so instead of whining. -- Cat chi? 00:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) Diagnosis: Murder is a one-hour mystery series, starring Dick Van Dyke as Dr. Mark Sloan, a physician who occasionally works for the police department as a  consultant.

Email permission
Where is this permission that Coolcat notes, and who is it from? I don't see it.

I'm deleting the the page and restoring it with non-copyvio portions (after an extended listing on Copyright problems.)

Do not re-add copyrighted material until permission is received. If you do receive permission, note it clearly; who it is from, what it says, in regards to what website, with dates, etc. I can't make any sense of the supposed permission above, it's a mess--Duk 18:22, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Sigh, see the +3 text. This is the emails I recieved and sent to her. -- Cat chi? 22:59, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * What is the +3 text? --Duk 01:07, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The  LARGE and IMPOSIBLE TO MISS  text -- Cat chi? 06:22, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Undeletion archive
Following is an archive of the VFU of the copyvio deletions. --Duk 05:17, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Deleted with copy vio concerns, explained in article talk that this is not the case. --Cool Cat My Talk 11:16, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid your request didn't make it clear that the information would be released under the GFDL license and could be and will be copied all over the Internet. This isn't appropriate copyright release. RickK 17:01, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep deleted. Cool Cat was dishonest from the beginning about this posting, denying at first that it was copyrighted, then claiming he had prior permission, then claiming he got permission after the fact (see discussion currently on my talk page). Furthermore, the text was copied from two websites, and the e-mail he speaks of at best covered one. If he likes the show that much, it shouldn't be a problem for him to use his own words to expand the new article. Postdlf 18:21, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep deleted. We can write an article from scratch on this just like we do for everything else. Gamaliel 22:19, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: I was the person clearing copivios who deleted part of this article. There were two copyvios from two different websites. Coolcat claims he got permission from one of the sites and notes this on the talk page. But he is unable to tell which site he got permission from, so I deleted both copyvios until Coolcat can figure out which is which. Coolcat asked me to look at the order of deletions and additions to the article, with respect to when the permission note was added on the talk page and this would tell me which website the permission is from. I'm not going to clear copyvios based on information like this. If someone else would like to- be my guest.--Duk 12:17, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep deleted. No evidence that copyright release granted. Jayjg (talk) 20:26, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Subjective?
"The show is such a hit that it is known for making superstars out of the people that appear in it." - I removed this once because I would have said that its speculative, and I reckon untrue. Would anybody else agree that the statement should be removed? Thought I'd better check as its been re-added to the article and my feel strongly as to why it should be included. Hellfire83 00:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Everyone in the show has continued to do well since the apperance in it, usually better than they were before.

A superstar is more like Madonna, Brad Pitt, etc. Whilst the stars of the show may have done better, they hardly have superstar status. Hellfire83 14:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

A strange diagnosis (excuse the pun). How is Brad Pitt a superstar outside your own opinion (most people couldn't care less about him, his movies, or, his life) and as for Madonna, while she still has fans, many consider her a has been who once made some good music, not a superstar. Fans of Tom Cruise could argue he is a superstar and Brad Pitt is not. The fact is any famous person with a big enough fan base can be called a Superstar and Barry Van Dyke, as well as the rest of the cast of this top hit show, are well qualified, thanks to the genius that is Diganosis Murder. The only person this show didn't "make" a superstar was Dick Van Dyke as he already was one, however, it gave him a huge resurgence.

Please note that the line in question (re the show being such a hit) has since been removed --TimothyJacobson (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Character Pages
I have noticed that now Dr. Jesse Travis, Lieutenant Detective Steve Sloan, Dr. Amanda Bentley, Dr. Jack Stewart, Norman Briggs, and Delores Mitchell now have their own character pages. Also, Dr. Mark Sloan links to Grey's Anatomy. The link for this show is now Dr. Mark Sloan (Diagnosis: Murder). This was a recent change and needs to be updated on all of the preexisting pages. Someone with extra time might want to consider making these changes. ~Gatorgirl623~
 * Dr. Mark Sloan now links to a disambiguation page, whereby you can choose which character (Grey's Anatomy or Diagnosis Murder) you wish to read about. I believe all links on the Diagnosis Murder pages are now linked directly to the correct page --TimothyJacobson (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

A section for smaller reoccuring guest stars?
I am thinking we need a section in the main article for smaller, reoccuring guest stars. For example,
 * Joanna Cassidy as Madison,
 * Kim Little as Susan,
 * Charmin Lee as Steve's second partner Cheryl,
 * Susan Gibney as Steve's first partner Det. Tanis Archer,
 * Martin Kove as Captain Newman,
 * Shane Van Dyke as the ever-reoccuring medical student,
 * Kevin McNally as the ubiquitous paramedic,
 * Tim Conway as Tim Conrad,
 * Harry J. Lennix as Agent Ron Wagner
 * Denise Crosby as Didi Harris.


 * How long ago was the above put up? (Please date your edits with four tildas).  I agree (esp re Kim Little) that this should be done, but it looks like a lot of the others now have been.  Anyone think of anyone else that can/should be added to this list --TimothyJacobson (talk) 03:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

“The Dick Van Dyke Show alumnus Dick Van Dyke”
Is it just me, or is this just a clunky piece of writing? Why not “veteran screen actor” or something? He’s probably far better known for being in Mary Poppins or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang anyway (does The DVD Show play anywhere outside the U.S. these days - or even there?)Jock123 (talk) 15:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)