Talk:Diamond Dogs

Untitled
Edited to add that first track quotes Rogers and HArt song. Acknowledged only on later issues (no doubt after copyright protests!)


 * Good call whoever you are, in fact I worked this into the "Future Legend" article but didn't retrofit it here for some reason. Rejigged your edit to better reflect how it appeared on the original album - it's actually later CD issues that ignore it I believe, not the other way round. Cheers, Ian Rose 03:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Album credit
Interestingly the original vinyl album is credited to "Bowie" rather than "David Bowie" - the name David isn't mentioned anywhere on the sleeve or label. Is this also the case for CD reissues? 217.155.20.163 21:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes and no. The CD reissue covers are the same as the original LP, which just says 'Bowie', but the spine of the Rykodisc and EMI reissues say 'David Bowie', as does the disc itself from Ryko (don't own the EMI remaster, can't say for sure there).
 * Never thought it particularly noteworthy myself but there it is... Cheers, Ian Rose 22:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think a few things carried the "Bowie" designation in those days - maybe the Knock On Wood single, for example. Possibly a result of his meeting with up Charlie. BTLizard 13:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason for the one-word "Bowie" designation on the album is that Tony Defries had the idea of "re-branding" him with a single name, like Cher or Liberace. So it's consistently just "Bowie" on the album; in the TV ads for the album, etc. That idea didn't last long--just a few months later, with David Live, his first name was back in use. glenntwo (talk) 17:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Sweet Thing Lyrics
I am investigating the history of where David Bowie got the lyrics to this song in particular as so very many of the lines are exactly worded in S. Delaney's first book, Dhalgren, published in 1973 out of New York I believe. Also, Delaney, I have been told, took approximately 10 years to produce this book, making the wording within it much, much older than the lyrics written in Bowie's Sweet Thing. Should be interesting. Both, it seems, come from Theater of Cruelty and/or Theater of the Absurd genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by QStick (talk • contribs) 01:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I remember reading somewhere a long time ago the title track (Diamond Dogs) seemed to be thematically lifted almost entirely from Dhalgren though I don't know about the timeline myself. And have not read Dhalgren myself.--72.173.5.119 (talk) 00:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Diamond Dogs (The actual song on the album)
Was this ever recorded without the 'live' background? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.101.44 (talk) 18:56, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose the 'live' background was an overdub on a standard studio-recorded song, but I'm not aware of a version without the crowd noises ever being released to the public (be interested to know for sure myself)... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any version released to the public without an overdub, though you could search for bootlegs, I suppose. It's not part of the original recording, however. The applause transition between "Future Legend" and "Diamond Dogs" is an overdub from Jimi Hendrix's Live at the Isle of Wight album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.192.248.159 (talk) 23:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The crowd noise that bridges "Future Legend" and "Diamond Dogs" was actually borrowed from Rod Stewart; it comes from the recording of his live Faces album, "Coast to Coast."glenntwo (talk) 17:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: The crowd noise from the Rod Stewart album, you can also hear Stewart himself shouting "Hey!". I don't know if this is mentioned in any other source but it's not mentioned here. SamXT (talk) 11:43, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Cover Art???
Have subsequent re-releases of the album stripped the dog/man hybrid of it bikinis and allowed the genetalia???User:JCHeverly 20:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

The image of Bowie had the original artwork, with genitalia, restored on the vinyl reissue/remaster in the 1990s, and as far as I know, all subsequent CD releases, in the UK, at least.

To the best of my knowledge, the background creatures have always worn bikinis.SamXT (talk) 11:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Take It in Right
In the writing and recording section, a song is mentioned called Take It In Right, and is mentioned as being a demo of the song 'Right' from Young Americans a year later. Listening to the song (forget about the citation), the song is OBVIOUSLY an early version of the song 'Can You Hear Me', also recorded later for Young Americans. I'd like to remove or correct this, but I hesitate to tamper with anything with a citation attached to it..Robbmonster (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for bring this to my attention. When I wrote that many months ago I neglected to see if that was right (pun-intended) so I just listened to the demo myself and you're right that is "Can You Hear Me". I checked Pegg and he verified it so it's now corrected. Thanks for catching that! – zmbro (talk) 22:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. Was hoping to avoid getting into the whole 'original research' debate ;)Robbmonster (talk) 23:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)