Talk:Diana Deutsch

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Deutsch didn't discover the octave illusion or the tri-tone illusion (they were mentioned in Shepard's 1963 paper) but she did the most to investigate them.


 * See this edit summary for the response. Comments are never removed from talk pages unless they are vicious personal attacks. Graham 87 08:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Deutsch discovered both the Octave Illusion and the Tritone Paradox. Concerning the Octave Illusion, the first report can be found on the Octave Illusion page, specifically, JASA 1974, Nature 1974 abstract and the full article. As for the Tritone Paradox, the first report can be found on the Tritone Paradox page, specifically JASA 1986 abstract,  Music Perception 1986 abstract  and the full article. Shepard did not mention either of these in 1963; they had not been discovered at that time.  Thenthorn  15:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, not the discoverer, so Paxo got it slightly wrong, didn't he. Not that either Bristol or Wolfson could really tell. Although Glissando illusion does claim that Deutsch was the first to report and demonstrate it. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Let's find some RS about Deutsch and scrap PROMO cited only to primary sources
I'll start:
 * New Scientist credits DD with 2 illusions: phantom words and scale illusion.
 * Sci Am credits phantom words.
 * Science 2.0 says multiple illusions.
 * Philomel records credits DD with several musical illusions, but not likely this is independent since the page is copyright by DD.
 * New Scientist calls DD "a cognitive psychologist at the University of California, San Diego...[who] specialises in auditory illusions: tricks of sound that make people hear words or melodies that aren’t there."

This article needs to rely more on RS, less on uncited claims and self-published sources. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:03, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, the current article sets off copyvio tool for extensive overlap with http://deutsch.ucsd.edu/psychology/pages.php?i=101 This webpage links to some independent sources about DD: http://philomel.com/common/pages.php?i=1002 HouseOfChange (talk) 21:37, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

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BRD some changes
A recent extensive edit (which I undid) removed the ADVERT tag while adding new PROMO content to the lead, cited only to Deutsch's own UCSD page and a blurb from a program where she spoke in 2021. Neither of these is independent or fact-checked; also the lead summarizes important material already in the body of the article.

Several other blurbs from hosts of talks by Deutsch are similarly not RS. A very flattering blogpost by Michael S. Gordon of William Patterson University is also not RS.

Deutsch's name and work on tonal languages are included in a 1999 NYT article that could be a useful source, so I will re-add that to the article, as well as several CN notes that were removed by my undo. This new editor was IMO making a good faith effort at improving the article but better sourcing is still needed. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)