Talk:Diana Wynne Jones bibliography

Adults, marketed for
Are the annotations "(marketed) for Adults" complete in that all novels and short story collections except these three were marketed for young people? What about the three DWJ-edited anthologies (her only edited books, and marketed for young people)? What about the two nonfictions? --P64 (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Complete bibliography
The lead should state whether this bibliography is selected or (intended to be) complete. The template incomplete section can be used if and where it is "wanting".

Is anyone working by reference to a complete bibliography? --P64 (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

ISFDB
Here are the headings and subheadings for ISFDB's list of works. By plan, that is without duplication of story & book or book & omnibus. --P64 (talk) 22:05, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fiction Series --book series
 * Chrestomanci (6+1)
 * Dalemark (4)
 * Derkholm (2) --not including the nonfiction Tough Guide
 * Howl's Castle (3)
 * Magids (2)
 * Novels (20) --in this context meaning Other novels
 * Collections (6) --as sole author
 * Anthologies (3) --as editor
 * Chapterbooks (5) --definition?
 * Nonfiction (2)
 * Shortfiction (25) --some are contents of books listed previously
 * Poems (1)
 * Essay Series (1) --Jones contribution to a series by multiple authors?
 * Essays (10)
 * Reviews (1)

Picture books
Has anyone seen Yes, Dear and Puss in Boots? Are they fully illustrated books probably intended for reading aloud to pre-school children? (If so, is she the illustrator or translator of Puss in Boots?) Is there such a version of Angus Flint?

I have seen "Angus Flint" only in the collection Stopping for a Spell. That is illustrated but not fully illustrated, only occasional black-and-white drawings. --P64 (talk) 21:53, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Young adults
Which of her fiction books must be called "young adult" (or adult or adults', etc) rather than "children's" for reasonable accuracy? --not here but in the prose and in the {infobox} and categories of book articles.

--P64 (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Short fiction
Here are two listings that I deleted --after correcting the first and expanding both-- because it appears this bibliography lists only that short fiction neither published as a separate volume nor included in one of the all-Jones collections. These two are in the Jones collection Unexpected Magic (2004).


 * "Fat Wizard", in Guardian Angels (Viking Kestrel, 1987)
 * "Little Dot", in Firebirds (Penguin, 2003)

I doubt this bibliography should continue the approach I have described here, and followed in my revision last hour. In User space there is a table constructed last-last hour w ref ISFDB, which shows which short fiction appears in which of the six collections (abbreviated SWEABU). User:P64/FSF/Children's

--P64 (talk) 05:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Ursula Jones
Younger sister Ursula Jones is one to watch for future works.[ref name=chaldea]

Ursula Jones at LC Authorities — point of entry to LC catalog records

Almost certainly, WorldCat and the Library of Congress now conflate multiple people with this name. --P64 (talk) 18:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


 * There is now some update in the biography Diana Wynne Jones, initiated by another editor, and several sources with a few notes compiled at Talk:Diana Wynne Jones. --P64 (talk) 20:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

The Tough Guide to Fantasyland
The Tough Guide to Fantasyland (1996, revised and updated 2006) is written as a guidebook a la Rough Guides, never overtly about fantasy fiction. Not trivial to classify.
 * ISFDB catalogues it as Nonfiction.
 * The Library of Congress gives it Dictionary subject headings (LCSH), which we follow in its infobox book. See the LCCat record for its first ed. UK . (We need a source here and in the book article.) One point of entry for DWJ in LCCat is
 * WorldCat lists it, along with her posthumous Reflections on the magic of writing, among the "works about Diana Wynne Jones" . That is misleading about The Tough Guide, at least, whose subject is not her own Fantasyland(s) creations.

The Revised and Updated edition of 2006 needs a mention here, if not its own listing. Perhaps it has been published only in the US(?!). ISFDB catalogues no new edition in the UK(!).

--P64 (talk) 19:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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Anyone familiar with these books care to add them to this list?
Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy series (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. At least some of these books and/or series would qualify. Anyone care to add them? Tamtrible (talk) 00:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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Carnegie Medal commendations
Several of the books are listed as having Carnegie Medal commendations——I've been having trouble finding an official source for these. The Carnegie Medal website only lists the Medal winners prior to 1995, and the list of Carnegie medal commendations cited on its page (Carnegie Medal (literary award)) does not cite a primary source. Should they be included?Alarumclock (talk) 19:05, 19 November 2020 (UTC)