Talk:Dianna Agron/Archives/2020/July

Personal life
Before adding anything to the personal life section, please read WP:BLP and WP:RS. We do not report rumours ever. Any information must be relevant, must be cited with a reliable source and must comply with BLP. Anything added that fails on any of these points can, and should, be removed by any editor who sees fit. It is the responsibility of the editors who seek to include this information, to ensure it is done correctly. Please stop adding the same unsourced gossip over and over. It has no place here. Thanks Rossrs (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The statement that "Ellis Island officials" ordered new immigrants to change their names is often repeated but always false. New immigrants invariably changed their own names voluntarily (and not at Ellis Island) in an attempt to show a break from the past and a new start as "Americans." Often several "Americanized" new names were tried before the families would settle on a final version. Name changes in this era were not an official or court process, people simply called themselves what they wished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.94.10 (talk) 20:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

The phrase "Agronsky, was altered by Ellis Island officials.[1]" still appears in the article. Since, as already stated, Ellis Island officials didn't alter names that phrase should be changed to say that the family legend is inaccurate and the reference replaced, perhaps to http://ethnicelebs.com/dianna-agron which could also be used to expand information on her family. Mcljlm (talk) 02:01, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Her geneology in interesting especially when "agron" derives from the Greek "agros," which means wild or from the land. Other Greek words from the same root that have been adopted into English are: Agrarian, agrestic, agric, agrimony, agrioecology, agroecology, agriology, agrius, agroanalogous, agrobiology/agrobiologic/agrobiological/agrobiologically, agroclimatic, agroclimatology/cal, agrogeology/gical/gically/gist, agrology/gic/gical/gically/gist, agromania, agrometeorology, agronomy/mics/mical/mist, agrophilous, agrostography/pher/phic/phical, agrostology/gic/cal/gist, agrotechny.

Dianna Agron has no middle name. It is not Charlotte. This may be a reference to the fact her blog title, "Dianna Agron, but you can call me Charlie", but Charlie is the name she thinks was her name in a past life when she was a boy or the name her parents would've given her if she was a boy. It is not a reference to a middle name of Charlotte. She has no middle name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brittany S. Pierce (talk • contribs) 03:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

On June 12, 2011, she signed a Tumblr post using the name Dianna Elise Agron. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.9.14.58 (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand why the Alex Pettyfer engagement rumours item can be in here but the breakup can't. For that matter the whole relationship was never confirmed by anyone officially. This article gives the misleading impression that they are still together when the breakup was in February. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilyjem (talk • contribs) 02:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Full name Dianna Charlotte Elise Agron. Charlotte Elise are her 2 middle names. Her and alex Pettyfer were engaged but split up in February. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.38.239 (talk) 12:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Photos
Why do we need three photos for such a short article? Cimplex (talk)

Lea Michele
shouldn't it be mentioned that she lives in an apartment with her co-star Lea Michele from Glee? I don't know if thats still current, but they sure where living together. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lktb0iDciM is youtube a reliable source?) --46.5.46.197 (talk) 16:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * They no longer live together, I'm not sure when they got their own places but I think it was between the filming of the first and second halves of Glee season 1. No source for that though. I do agree however, that it wouldn't do any harm to mention it. She clearly has a close relationship with Lea and they've both (on many occasions) talked about living together. 79.97.190.18 (talk) 02:10, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Middle Name
On June 12, 2011, Dianna posted something on her personal Tumblr page that was signed "Dianna Elise Agron." Not "Charlotte" as this article declares. So could it be changed?

Here's the post: http://felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com/post/6453072763 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.195.43 (talk) 16:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Her full name is Dianna Charlotte Elise Agron. Fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.38.239 (talk) 12:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source that has that as her full name? --Jnorton7558 (talk) 06:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd already added it to the article before you posted this, because it's sourced information. "Charlotte" was nothing more than an assumption by fans, because a) one of her pet nicknames is Charlie, and b) she called her character Charlotte in a short film she made. Revendetta (talk) 11:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem I was more referring to the Charlotte part. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 13:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Please
Her name is Dianna Elise Agron THERE IS NO CHARLOTTE! It's Dianna Elise Agron please keep it that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.231.128 (talk) 06:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.20.184.77 (talk) 16:57, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletions - Personal life
I don't think the second paragraph under Personal Life meets Wikipedia standards, esp. for BLP. The cite (#19 now) on the first sentence leads here, which is nothing and does not support the sentence's content. I googled the name of the article cited and got a bunch of articles that reference Sugar Magazine and I found this article. Sugar Magazine is described as being for 17 year olds and it's going out of business and the entire interview is not online so it's hard to judge. Is this sufficiently reliable. Also according to the cite on the second sentence (#20 now) which leads here, Agron criticizes the Sugar Magazine article for misrepresenting what she said.

The second sentence about the engagement is referenced by US Weekly which is described as a gossip magazine in its WP article. So US Weekly reported an engagement and that was confirmed not to be true - isn't that a rumor that turned out to be false and as such shouldn't be in here at all?

Please comment on whether you think this info should be deleted or not. Bluebonnet460 (talk) 23:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Full Name
Please incorporate her middle name 'Elise' in full name.

http://felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahyah12345 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * As has been said here before we need a reliable source in order to add that to the article. From the consensus here tumblr is not a reliable source for her middle name. Jnorton7558 (talk) 07:54, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but Dianna listed the Tumblr from her official, verified Twitter account. Therefore, to most people, it would be a reliable source. If there was no link, I'd say OK. I don't understand why can't accept that the person who posted this is right. What if someone walked up to Dianna herself, asked if Elise was her real middle name, she said yes (because it is her real middle name) and then edited it on here, with a reference explaining that this person had met Dianna themselves and asked her, and then one of you people just came up to them and said 'We need a reliable source'. Personally, I would be quite offended. I know that meeting her and asking does seem unrealistic, but it's a good example of what I mean. Her Tumblr is the best we're gonna get right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.20.184.77 (talk) 15:58, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

"Consensus here" meaning a few people arguing that Dianna doesn't know her own middle name? Sheesh. The woman signs a post on a tumblr that has been verified as belonging to her with her full name and that's still not enough. Charlotte was made up and assumed, it was always made up and assumed, but you're ignoring the source of the woman herself. Seriously, did you also refuse to believe Barack Obama was a US citizen until you got the birth certificate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.61.5 (talk) 15:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

As was pointed out above, the facts are that Dianna has a verified Twitter account, and in that she points to the tumblr account felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com, which effectively verifies it, too, as hers. Posts from these Twitter and tumblr accounts can therefore be considered hers, and self-published sources. According to WP:SELFSOURCE, "self-published" sources can be "sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves", provided it isn't self-serving, the article isn't primarily based on such information, and "there is no reasonable doubt as to the authenticity and source of the material". Under the circumstances, and especially considering the post in question, I don't see how the middle name of "Elise" can be excluded. I've accordingly added it to the article, with an appropriate citation. While tumblr [fan] accounts in general are deprecated, those few where we can establish that they're written by the actual person, like their Twitter or Facebook accounts, can be used under the conditions listed in WP:SELFSOURCE. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from Cehf, 19 August 2011
Please add her middle name (Elise). Here (http://felldowntherabbithole.tumblr.com/post/6453072763) is where she shows that her middle name is Elise.

Cehf (talk) 09:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

not a reliable source  Chzz  ► 05:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Vegetarianism
Dianna Agron might not be vegetarian any longer or never was a full vegetarian. All the article said in the references was that she loves her veggies and that was in February 2011. I also had Tonya Kay tell me in person that she told her on the set of Glee that she wasn't vegetarian anymore when she asked. This was when I met her and spent an outing with her and some friends in April 2011. Tonya Kay was a stilt performer/dancer in two episodes of Glee. Yes, she did appear in an approximately 5 second scene of Bold Native, a pro vegan film, in which Tonya had a supporting role, but that doesn't qualify her as vegetarian. Also, P.E.T.A. articles aren't reliable regarding the status of celebrities as vegetarian. They will usually just say they are vegetarian, or try it for a few months, just to get publicity through P.E.T.A. Frankster200277 (talk) 07:51, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Revert War
How about we have a discussion why the Glee section should or should not contain the extra information instead of just removing/inserting it a once or twice a day. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 05:04, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Credit confusion
It seems that a similarly-named actress was confused for Dianna Agron, leading to a false credit being added. The film Talkers Are No Good Doers does not feature Dianna Elise Agron, but instead features Diana Marie Agron. You can find a video of the film on Vimeo and at 5:12 in the opening credits you see clearly that it is not the Dianna Agron who is on Glee.-- The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 19:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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