Talk:Dick Thornburgh

Trivia
I deleted the Trivia section. It was completely pointless, and had no real importance or revelance. I'm sure the editors would agree with the delete. I know that some would say that's the point of trivia, but discussing whether he actually saw a pornographic film, or made a verbal blip while trying to make a joke about an odd question on a talk show 16 years ago isn't trivia, and isn't even important, (as I said earlier). I strongly disagree with having it in their because it is so irrelevant and pointless, again all of this is a restatement of what I said earlier. --68.229.147.56 20:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Sam Sparks libelled?
Karl Rove & Company's successful lawsuit against Dick Thornburgh is described in each man's Wikipedia article. Each description mentions that the judge, Sam Sparks, was an appointee of George H. W. Bush in a way that hints at impropriety. Alas, Times v Sullivan may have vitiated the judge's remedies under libel law.

The facts in the account may be, strictly speaking, true. But the facts are arranged in a way to imply wrongdoing. Even though neither article explicitly charges any wrongdoing, don't they, in effect, make an unsubstantiated charge of misbehavior against a living person?

Is this necessary, absent some evidence of malfeasance?

Mr Rove seems to be especially unpopular, but doesn't this language represent an unwarranted slur against Judge Sparks?

Cheers, --AndersW (talk) 08:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, what's with the Karl Rove thing??? I mean was he Thornburgh's 1992 Senatorial campaign manager???  You never really say what the deal was clearly and you don't have any media sourcing.  In PA, Dick Thornburgh has always had a good rep with both DEMS and GOP.User:JCHeverly 22:34, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

connection to Dan Rather lawsuit vs. CBS/Viacom
Can somebody with more Wikipedia expertise think of a way to take into account what Dan Rather said in his Larry King interview 21Sep2007, which mentioned Mr. Thornburgh re. the investigation of the memo... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0gGy_95Qw 199.214.27.32 (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Awkward sentences
1. Despite a Democratic majority in the commonwealth, he and running mate William W. Scranton III defeated Pittsburgh mayor Peter F. Flaherty.
 * This sentence really should be rewritten to include Peter Flaherty's running mate. Currently, it sounds as if Thornburgh and Scranton teamed up (unfairly) against one guy, Flaherty.  Everyone knows that this is not the case; someone must know Flaherty's running mate, eh?ThsQ (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Very poorly sourced
Can this article be improved with more reliable sources? Thank you, --68.9.119.69 (talk) 14:28, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Both wives named Ginny?
OK, I'll bite. --68.9.119.69 (talk) 14:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes. A charming coincidence. Unbecca (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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Later political life / Personal life
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Richard Thornburgh and Budd Dwyer
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No mention is made of the public suicide of Pennsylvania’s former State Treasurer Budd Dwyer in 1987 and the doubtful role Thornburgh played in the intrigue he was involved in. Speaking of Thornburgh’s doing in the 80’s you write:

“However, he was also known for scandals which involved charging the commonwealth for his wife's travel expenses as well as State Police escorts for his children.”

This information is highly significant and leads to an article published in 1990 in the Executive Intelligence Review and signed by Steve Komm and Jeff Steinberg, where some excerpts are taken from Dwyer’s last words during his press conference held on January, 22 of 1987 before he ended up shooting himself in front of the journalists. Dwyer accused Pennsylvania’s former Governor Thornburgh of being behind the investigation and what he called a “political persecution” which finally led to the tragical action of the desperate State Treasurer:

"Then in February of 1984, another significant event occurred in my life. In conformity with Pennsylvania law, I refused to pay the travel voucher for Mrs. Dick Thornburgh's trip to Europe and Governor Thornburgh told Bob Asher and others that he would 'get Dwyer.' Thanks to you, the media, Governor Thornburgh has a very positive image but if his staff had ever let you get close to him you would have found a short temper and a vicious, vindictive personality. Governor Thornburgh's resolve to get me increased when 'Ginnygate' was followed by 'chauffeurgate'.in March, April, and May of 1984 which was properly brought to my attention by reporter Wally Roche of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Then our recent governor began referring to me as 'the Fat F-k,' which can be attested to by several people." 79.148.32.127 (talk) 00:22, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

"However, he was also known for scandals which involved charging the commonwealth for his wife's travel expenses as well as State Police escorts for his children."

this is information is not significant and most importantly it is false.

(1) The inlcusion of the word "however" is bias insofar as it covertly imputes guilt on Thornburgh's behalf.

(2) Thornburgh did not charge the Commonewealth for his wife's expenses-- his wife Ginny allegedly did (by mistake).

(3) prior to their trip, the Thornburgh’s had issued a press release “expressly stating that she (Ginny Thornurgh) would pay her own expenses” and Thornburgh statetd that she “repeatedly requested that my staff advise her of the amount of reimbursement so that she could write up a check”, but

(4) Regarding the use of the state police, Thornburgh responded that “the security detail provided its services to all members of our household as the officers deemed necessary for our protection. We neither asked for nor questioned these services, which were no different than those provided to our predecessors”. There is no evidence to suggest that this anything other than the truthStanzsd 09:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanzsd (talk • contribs)