Talk:Die Eier Von Satan

How is the neutrality of this page disputed? Tokle 13:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh I am sorry, I seem to have forgotten to add my 2 cents to the talk page after inserting the pov flag. The article is filled with pov, therefore it seemed obvious to me, what has to be clarfied. Specifically, I have the following passages in mind:
 * "is an example of the band's use of irony to bring to attention the casual listener's tendency to prejudge and form a subjective interpretation of something before really understanding it" - no source given to prove the band's intention, therefore it's just a claim and therefore has to be phrased accordingly
 * "in a manner suggestive of an angry, hate-filled speech" - slightly pov, at least not taking into consideration that other people might see this differently, "hate-filled" at least seems a bit far-fetched
 * " the lyrics might sound like a speech from a Nazi rally" - is pure speculation and reflects merely the opinion of the author
 * Sorry again, and I hope, I could clarify.. Since my internet connection is down due to technical problems, it might take a bit but afterwards I will try to post a revised version instead of merely criticising. =) --Johnnyw 11:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Why not just revise the article yourself? It is not a dispute until someone disagrees with your changes. --Tokle 13:52, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well I guess I assumed, since I disagree with the current revision, it is already dispute, but you are probably right. I am a bit handicapped right now regarding my internet access, therefore I will not be able to write a revision until after november 7th. But I'll promise I'll catch up. Thanks for your input. =) --Johnnyw 11:27, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
 * November 8th and I finished my proposal. I hope you welcome these edits. But what about lyrics and copyright? Is it legal to post the original lyrics as well, since they are made freely available by the authors? --Johnnyw 21:42, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Looks good. But I doubt we are allowed to use the lyrics, even translated, unless the source you took it from states otherwise. That they are made freely available on the internet does not mean that they're not under copyright. --Tokle 20:30, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I checked the site's legal notice, and they do not open for any use of their materiale without written permission. So I removed your translation from the article. --Tokle 20:54, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I guess I didn't take the time to look around to find the copyright notice located at the entry gateway. Well, I'll guess I'll have to send them an email and see if I can get written permission to post the translation. Thanks for looking after me ;) --Johnnyw 22:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)