Talk:Die Fledermaus

Comment
This says that the plot synopsis was taken from a book. Is that not copyright infringement? Zephyrprince 05:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * "All works from before 1923 are in the public domain." -United States copyright law, assuming the book is from the US. --Sketchee 21:20, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

There's a mistake in the section regarding the movie and TV adaptations: "Germany, 1937 | Paul Verhoeven". This is impossible since the director the link takes to is Dutch and was only born in 1938. If it's another director with the same name would it be more recomendable to remove the link from the name?

Mefistofele, not Die Fledermaus, is the opera shown in Batman Begins.

The eBay reference and the Tick cartoon reference are not in any way related to the the operetta, simply to the german word that is the title of the operetta. These are irrelevant and should be removed.

Reversion of inclusion of single aria from this opera in "Selected recordings" box
I'm taking the position that, in the Selected recordings area, we can only focus on complete recordings and not create a list of every performer's one-off performance of an aria. I trust that this meets with support.

Therefore I have removed the addition of Charlotte Church's 2001 aria recording (to say nothing of its POV approach). Viva-Verdi 17:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Change in synopsis subheads
Message left for editor User:Ashleyscripter: While, in theory, I have no objection to your doing this, there has been an attempt by the Wiki Opera Group to create a standard of consistancy across the board for all opera articles (e.g. no boxes, layout of first performance casts, layout of selected recordings box, etc.

So, allowing your changes to stand, might mean that every opera article would need to be changed to match. I won't change anything now, but let's see what reaction occurs. Viva-Verdi (talk) 19:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Austin
I'm a bit leery about this new section on performance adaptations, featuring only the Austin Lyric Opera. I am not sure that this adaptation is very noteworthy. It is far from unusual for topical jokes to be inserted, especially in the third act which is dominated by Frosch (I well remember Dom DeLuise as Frosch in the Met's production, being asked by Frank to look outside and what he sees: "64th and Amsterdam!")  Unless this Austin production is in some way groundbreaking, which I doubt, I suggest we get rid of it.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Performance history
Is it appropriate to add some details of early performances in Hamburg (Mahler) and London etc? I have a couple of paragraphs from 1930 reporting the words of the Covent Garden archivist if it is thought useful to add them. Tim riley (talk) 18:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Certainly appropriate in my judgement. Do we have premiere dates for important cities? Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Roles
Should the role of Eisenstein be listed as Tenor / Baritone, as many famous Eisensteins were baritones? Therealfindo (talk) 22:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC) therealfindo

Time signature
What is the time signeture on this peice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.100.21 (talk) 19:33, 30 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The parts of this operetta have many different time signatures. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:24, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Party Guests
Is there a tradition that the party in Act II should include special guests, often performing items from outside the operetta? Ghughesarch (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think so; a famous instance is Joan Sutherland's appearance, her last, at Covent Garden on New Year's Eve 1990 with Luciano Pavarotti and Marilyn Horne. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 08:01, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Is Frosch's opening dialogue all improvised?
I know that the role of Frosch is often performed by a leading comedian, and I have the impression that the performer typically gets (or takes) a lot of latitude to improvise his soliloquy that opens Act 3. Does anyone know if the author of the original "book" for Strauss provided any basis for this speech, or did he just instruct the actor to improvise whatever he wanted? Nandt1 (talk) 00:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion
I think Orlofsky can also be sung by a countertenor. If anyone can find any source it could be added to Roles section 83.38.103.49 (talk) 19:16, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

cast of recordings and filmed versions
In the discography the roles of Eisenstein, Rosalinde, Adele, Alfred, Orlofsky are listed (not Falke or Frank); here, in the films section Eisenstein, Rosalinde, Adele, Orlofsky and Frosch are given columns, but again not Falke or Frank. Does anyone know the rationale for this? Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 16:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

On Friends, the first time Ross met emily was because of this opera.
episode details 82.9.63.241 (talk) 16:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)