Talk:Die hard (phrase)

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Requested move 28 November 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved - no support (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 06:31, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

– This is the primary topic for the lowercase term and requires no disambiguation, though it should be changed from a "phrase" to a word, as it is more commonly used. The film is the primary topic for the uppercase term, so it can stay that way, but the disambiguation should be moved to the proper noun version. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Die hard (phrase) → Diehard
 * Die hard → Die Hard (disambiguation)


 * Oppose – The article suggests it's a phrase, not a word. And case is not enough for a primarytopic grab. Dicklyon (talk) 06:11, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per the same reasoning in so many of Zxcvbnm's RMs of late. Being the original referent doesn't make the idiom the primary topic, and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is clear about that. WP:DIFFCAPS does not work well, and we don't apply it, except when the capitalization scheme in question is quite distinctive (e.g. in mid-word).  If anything the original Willis film is the primary topic, though the root phrase still has a lot of currency and has had some cultural impact aside from the film series. However, it was strongly associated with a battery brand long before the films, so we're back to pop-culture references, not the phrase as such. And no, this phrase is a phrase, not a word.  If Zxcvbnm doesn't understand these things yet, then Zxcvbnm needs to stop doing RM nominations like this, as it's resulted in a tedious, repetitive mess to respond to. I think we all had better things to do with our Friday.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  18:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)


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