Talk:Diego von Bergen/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Resolute (talk · contribs) 23:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * General
 * Images are good, one fair use image with a decent rationale.
 * Not required for GA, but alternative text for images is recommended
 * Sources look good


 * Lead
 * Is there an appropriate infobox that could be used?


 * Early life
 * "...the son of German diplomat, Werner von Bergen, and a Spanish mother,..." - The commas around his father and mother's names introduce unnecessary pauses. I don't think they are necessary given the structure of the sentence.
 * It appears that the first 42 years of von Bergen's life is covered in three sentences. Can his life before his ambassadorship to the Holy See be expanded?


 * Ambassador to the Holy See
 * The first sentence notes he was accredited as a minister in 1915, but does not state he was made ambassador as is stated in the lead. Are the terms interchangable in this context?
 * The second sentence confused me a bit, as we've jumped ahead four years and we're talking about re-establishing a post. I am unclear on what happened to von Bergen in the mean time.
 * A large part of the first two paragraphs focus on other people and the relationship between the Wiemar Republic and Rome. It would be nice to fill in more details about von Bergen himself and his activities in this time.


 * Election of Pius XII
 * The lead indicates that his address on the death of Pius XI was "infamous", but the body does not explain why. What was the reaction to his speech?
 * I'm trying to understand the second paragraph. It notes that the four German cardinals voting in the conclave would support Pacelli, then goes on to note that von Bergen was guessing on one, and unsure of another.  Then we move to post-election.  How did the cardinals vote?  Was von Bergen influential in how they voted?


 * World War II
 * "On March 8, 1939, von Bergen appeared in the Vatican for the first time in months..." - Why hadn't he appeared in the Vatican for months?
 * "...with Myron C. Taylor conspicuously in last place." - What is conspicuous about Taylor being in last place?
 * "Von Bergen also demanded on August 29, 1941 that..." - strike "also". It's unnecessary here.
 * "Pius XII drew von Bergen aside after his 1942 Christmas address and assured him that his criticisms were aimed at Stalin and Russia—not Germany." - Since neither the criticisms nor possible complaints from Berlin are detailed, this sentence lacks context.
 * The final paragraph of this section is very repetitive as sentences start with "von Bergen also..." several times in succession. Please reword a couple to add some variety.


 * Death
 * "An "acre of ground" at von Bergen's Wiesbaden residence was used by the German General Staff, including Field Marshal Karl von Rundstedt, to argue over how to proceed in the late hours of the war." - Not seeing relevance here. Could you explain why this is important?


 * Overall
 * More to come, hopefully this weekend (Don't worry, I won't disappear like Steve did! ;) ).  But offhand, I'm not sure this article is broad enough at this point. The first half of the article does not reach the level of coverage on the subject as I would expect. Hopefully more can be added to enhance the article. Resolute 23:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, so I did kind of forget for a bit. Sorry about that.  However, after completing the review, I feel that the amount of work needed exceeds what can likely be done in a reasonable hold period.  Consequently, I am failing this nomination at this point.  I realize that it waited a fair bit of time for a review, so if you choose to address these concerns and renominate at GAN, please let me know and I will give it a quick new review.  Regards, Resolute 23:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)