Talk:Dilectissima Nobis

This article lack the a neutral point of view
This article lack the a neutral point of view, since argue the "anti-Catholic" character of the government. A careful reading of the "Dilectissima Nobis" states that the main issues that the catholic church were facing in Spain were: -Their properties becoming property of the Spanish state -The separation between State and Church -The expelling of the Jesuist (remember that Jesuist didn't accept the rules of the State, only the rules coming from Rome) -The secularising of education

All the points but the first are common in today states, and no one will qualify them as anti-Chatolic, and the first point should be related to the far left policy of the government. It could it also be noted the pro fascist and pro Nazi character of the Pope Pius XI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.246.132.178 (talk) 11:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)


 * There is not much question that the Spanish Republican government was rigidly anti-clerical, and that in 1936 this anti-clericalism developed into a campaign of crude violent anti-Christianity whose foundations had been pretty well laid by 1933. As for Nazis, they had only very been in power about 10 weeks when "Dilectissima Nobis" was issued, and there was no noticeable Nazi-Catholic alliance before they came into power.  There was no overt fascism in Spain in 1933 either.  It's fair to criticize the Catholic church for what it was actually often guilty of -- narrow devotion to an old social order, tenaciously clinging onto its landholdings, anti-Jewish bigotry, etc. -- but labelling it "fascist" is lazy and semi-stupid...  If the Church allied itself with Franco after 1936, the Republicans have no one but themselves to blame for that, since they used every possible method to drive the Church (and all believing Christians who took their faith seriously) into Franco's arms.  If they didn't like the results, then maybe they should have done something different to start with.  AnonMoos (talk) 15:33, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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