Talk:Diners Club International/Archives/2013

Slovenian scandal
Hi. I've been working with Diners Club on and off to put together some content to help improve the article following COI best practices. I noticed recently an editor added a Slovenian scandal section, which appears to have a lot of excessive detail about an individual franchise owner, who is notable enough for his own article. It also looks like it has some factual errors, such as saying that Diners Club has refused to pay the debt, when the sources used say that Diners Club International has agreed to repay the debt of the franchise.

I would like to help correct the issue and was hoping to see if anyone has the Talk page watchlisted. I can throw together a proposed version or proceed in whatever manner an editor feels would be best. I appreciate your time in advance! CorporateM (Talk) 23:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Draft
Regarding my note above, User:Pine suggested I take a quick shot at authoring a proposed version of content regarding the controversy in Slovenia, which I've done below.


 * In 2013, Tomaž Lovše, who owned Diners Club Slovenija, was one of three people that were investigated in Slovenia regarding unpaid debt his franchise owed to merchants. In May, the central bank of Slovenia revoked the Diners Club Slovenije's license for payment services, which meant 80,000 local members could not use their card. Diners Club International transferred the franchise to a subsidiary of Austria's Erste bank group, Erste Card Club, and agreed to repay the franchise's debt to merchants. 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by CorporateM (talk • contribs) 02:14, 9 October 2013‎ (UTC)


 * User:CorporateM posted on my talk asking me to review his draft change to the Slovenia section. I see no problem with it. Though it is shorter than what it would be replacing, it seems proportional to the importance of the issue and it is well-cited. I'll be adding this to the article in a day or two if there is no further comment here. The existing Slovenia section (added by an IP in September) mentions that some Diner's Club cardholders were still waiting for reimbursement, though I'm not sure for what, and no source was provided. The collapse of the previous operator left the retailers holding the bag, though cardholders might also have a claim if they had paid membership fees for cards that were no longer usable. It is claimed (at least by Erste Bank) that the newly-issued Diners Club cards can be used in Slovenia as of August 29. Erste Bank's report didn't say that all the retailers were reimbursed yet or whether obligations to cardholders were taken care of. If there are still unresolved debts, we need a source, and we would have to be convinced that this is notable in an article of this length. It is hard to get much concrete information from http://www.facebook.com/dinersclubslovenija but it's clear they believe their cards are working again as of August 29. EdJohnston (talk) 03:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Not hearing an immediate response, I went ahead and implemented the requested edit. Content of this Slovenian section is up to the consensus of editors. It seems like the local head of the franchise may be subject to criminal charges due to some of his transactions. I have omitted some of that material. If the article were about him, all of this would be relevant. But in a worldwide artice about Diners Club it's of interest to the degree that the general business press gives it ongoing coverage, not just the Slovenian press. Please continue the discussion here if you wish. EdJohnston (talk) 13:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)