Talk:Diogenes syndrome

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"with only a robe and (for a time) a bowl". This needs to be clarified. As mentioned in Diogenes of Sinope, he possessed a lamp and usually some onions. Ph33rspace (talk) 19:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting information regarding intelligence
In the Presentation section of the article, one paragraph claims that intelligence levels associated with the syndrome vary widely, while another paragraph claims that intelligence levels are generally high. I don't know the truth of the matter, but I do know it's very unlikely for both of those statements to be correct. :) TooManyFingers (talk) 19:15, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Coercion and trusting health care professionals
The section on Management contains the following sentence:

"When under care, patients must be treated in a way in which they can learn to trust the health care professionals. In order to do this, the patients should be restricted in the number of visitors they are allowed, and be limited to 1 nurse or social worker. Some patients respond better to psychotherapy, while others to behavioral treatment or terminal care.[11]"

Yet, the Classification section of the article on Self-neglect, which is linked in the See also section, contains this one:

"It is key to establish a trusting, therapeutic relationship with a person who is engaging in self-neglect because restricting autonomy can be harmful. Lauder et al. (2005a) suggested the best-practice approach is not to force services on the person."

I can see that both quotes have citations, so even if I find the former, the one attributed to Reyes-Ortiz, morally repugnant, I understand that it doesn't have to be removed, but it could be balanced with something more respectful, like the sentence appearing in Self-neglect. --Jergas (talk) 12:06, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Why do they die in hospital care?
I think it needs to be explained why half of the patients die if they get hospital care. What's the physical cause of that? Getting help for neglecting yourself can hardly be a cause of death in itself. If it were, then the best "help" would be none at all.2A07:A880:4601:1052:5A16:6693:B55D:511D (talk) 05:49, 12 February 2022 (UTC)