Talk:Dipped ware

American market
Hello all. Could the authour / someone elobraite on the following "After the mid-19th century, the American market was no longer viable and those factories still producing a more limited range aimed product primarily at the home market with government-stamped capacity-verified vessels used in markets and taverns." The reason is that ware from the Potteries was exported in huge amounts well after mid-19th century. (And the US remains a very important export destination) ThanxTheriac 08:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Not sure why you added a UK-company-stub to this article ?? Teapotgeorge 12:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Teapotgeorge. I do! It was a cut & paste error from a previous edit. I have corrected it accordingly. Thanks for your observation. ThanxTheriac 17:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

In response to Theriac's request: While the export market remained viable for British ceramics in general, dipped wares, or slip-decorated factory-produced utilitarian wares, began to dwindle after the middle of the 19th century. Many factors were in play: style, economics (these were the low end of the export trade), the American civil war, and the growth of the American ceramics industry in particular. Remember that the earliest shipments of dipped wares in the late 18th century were received by a country that had no real industry as such——lots of small regional potteries for sure, but nothing comparable to the great British factories of that period. Jonathan Rickard 15:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Jonathan Rickard


 * Hello Jonathan. Thank you for your reply. Your information highlights the name "dipped ware" is confusing as it does not describe what is characteristic of slip-decoration. It can be easily misunderstood as other ware was, and often still is, dipped (in glaze). ThanxTheriac 15:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Theriac: The term "dip" or "dipped" appears in 18th and 19th century documents as a synonym for "slip". The original watercolor patterns in the Leeds Pottery "New Teapot Drawing Book" have notations next to each pattern. The slip-decorated designs have the word "dip' beside each one. This document is in the Print Room of the Victoria and Albert Museum, South Kensington, London. Dipped Ware is the term used by the potters for lathe-turned, slip-decorated wares.

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Moved here: "The references to Wedgwood here are misleading. The use of turning lathes in the potteries dates to the early eighteenth century. Examples made at both the Samuel Bell pottery in Newcastle-under-Lyme and at an excavation of a pottery site in Shelton Farms in use in the 1720s* revealed examples of lathe-turned stoneware and earthenware. Wedgwood's adaptation of Boulton's Engine-turning lathe in the 1760s allowed for repeating a geometric pattern on earthenware and stoneware. Other potteries began quickly to buy these adaptations and soon became somewhat common in the industry despite the expense.

-In fact the article doesn't mention Wedgwood, only the extrernal link. Johnbod (talk) 02:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Archaeological reports from David Barker, keeper of Archaeology at the Potteries Museum, Hanley, Staffordshire, and staff of the Borough Museum, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire."