Talk:Dirección Federal de Seguridad

DFS and CIA
This paragraph was similar to sections in several articles, including Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo and I have removed it for reasons explained on Talk:Miguel_%C3%81ngel_F%C3%A9lix_Gallardo. All these sections were based on a single article by Peter Dale Scott in a magazine called Variant. This article made various claims that were not sourced or were not substantiated in the sources Scott gave. The frequent use of sources such as Scott's magazine articles for topics such as the DFS, instead of far better documented works such as Aguayo's La charola, is just one more indication of how low Wikipedia quality is in this area.

I have also removed another unsourced claim that Mexican journalist Manuel Buendía Tellezgirón "was murdered by members of the DFS for reporting on Mexican high-ranking officials corruption, and their relation with the CIA and Drug Trafficking." The murder is discussed in the article on Buendía, and it is a fact that members of the DFS were convicted of the murder, but Buendía's reporting on high officials' "relation with the CIA and Drug Trafficking" is not mentioned there. The Buendía article could also use a lot of cleaning up. Rgr09 (talk) 03:52, 5 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for coming to the talkpage. I appreciate the edits you did. I'll be more than willing to help you update the DFS's article if you ever plan to do so. As far as the Buendía article, I was the one who updated it and promoted it to GA. I'll be more than happy to rewrite parts of it if you discover that the information there is unreliable. The CIA is mentioned in his article, but it does not suggest a direct correlation between his publications about the CIA in Mexico and his murder. I wrote the article in 2013, before this book was published. I wonder if there is something there. MX ( ✉  •  ✎  ) 20:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note and your great work on Mexico for Wikipedia. Buendia's murder has been the subject of much speculation, despite the trial and conviction of several DFS officers in the case. My concern with the Buendia article is that there is little about what came out at the trial, instead mentioning speculation about the role of Juan Arévalo Gardoqui in the case. This should be remedied at some point. I have Aguayo's book on the history of the DFS, but my Spanish is very rusty after many years of disuse, so it will take me awhile to get anything out of that. Perhaps you could take a look? I have looked at the book you referenced by Russell Bartley when it came out about a year and a half ago. I was very interested in it at first, especially since it was published by the University of Wisconsin Press, which is generally highly reliable, but I was very disappointed to find chunks of it sourced to low grade conspiracy bilge from websites such as Simkin's Spartacus Education and Conroy's Narco News, and people like Robert Plumlee. I do not understand how this book was published by the UW Press, and I doubt there is anything usable there for Wikipedia. Rgr09 (talk) 23:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)


 * This is shit! LOL