Talk:Dirty Diana

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Dirty Diana
Sheryl Crow is not the woman (groupie) in the video. It is Lisa Dean.video.Mellotee (talk) 05:32, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm curious. I read a review about the album and I came across an comment about "the misogynistic 'Dirty Diana'." Do you guys think this song is really misogynistic. If you do, why? If you don't, why not? Elemental5293 (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this song about Diana Ross? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.130.129 (talk) 08:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I asked Tatiana Yvonne on her myspace. She says, "it's neither [me or Crow]. it was just some unknown model used for that" -68.121.165.58 (talk) 02:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Who are the two female guitarists in the music video? With the very high sprayed up hair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.72.224 (talk) 17:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Deadlink
Ref #3 is a deadlink which just went dead a little over a week ago; I couldn't find anything on web.archive.org anything to replace this URL. –MuZemike 23:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 15:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

metal?
this. is. not. metal. MasterOfBucket (talk) 21:57, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

"Dirty Diana" is also considered a heavy metal ballad, this information has a citation that uses a reliable source (Philadelphia Inquirer). Read the article, it includes this citation |DN&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB29A5FFA3BB919&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

--Newalf (talk) 21:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011
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Dangerous World Tour
This Song was planned with Give In To Me,In The Closet,Dangerous,Who Is It and Remember The Time for the Dangerous World Tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.50.33.93 (talk) 14:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Jangle Pop? Alternative Rock/Metal? Gothic? Darkwave?
What's the deal here? U keep adding genres like gothic metal, darkwave and much more. Do u have the source for these genres. Michael Jackson is the king of pop not ska punk. Why do you add this genres? Neither He nor this song has nothing to do with these genres. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.13.64 (talk) 06:21, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 07:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

continuation for Jangle Pop? Alternative Rock/Metal? Gothic? Darkwave?
everytime i visit this page, the song has a different genre. at first it was labbeled as hard rock and pop. Now all of the sudden it is labelled as alternative metal, thrash metal, ska punk, jangle pop and something called symphonic/groove. What is this? can't u be a little specific? I bet u'll change it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.4.83 (talk) 09:31, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you please stop this? It probably isn't coincidental that everytime YOU visit the page and post on the talk page, somebody from the same IP address as yours edits the page to your description. This is not funny or even slightly amusing. Changing descriptions to random genres does not improve the page at all. Feel free to contribute positively to Wikipedia, but this type of editing activity is attention-seeking bullcrap. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 22:08, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

G minor vs Bb Major
SYnthwave.94 keeps changing the key of the song to Bb major, which is incorrect. G minor is the relative minor to Bb major, but there is almost no way to argue that the song is in a major key. It doesn't even contain a Bb major at any point in the song. How could it possibly be in Bb major? The sheet music for footnote 11 is evidence for my argument. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.161.192.15 (talk) 20:21, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Genre
Time to discuss the genre. Come to a consensus and it can be changed or kept the same. Any edits that need to be made in the mean-time can be achieved by messaging me or by using edit semi-protected and then specifying the change. References to reliable sources are the best way to present your case one way or the other. I will not be presenting an opinion on this genre but I will watch the discussion :) James086Talk 05:45, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Just because Michael Jackson does a rock song doesn't make it a pop rock song because it should be categorized on the basis of it's own style rather than that typical of the music artist — Mötley Crüe, Poison, Guns N' Roses and Bon Jovi each could've recorded this hard rock and heavy metal (but not pop rock) song. Examples of pop rock include Hey, Soul Sister by Train, Maps by Maroon 5 and Counting Stars by OneRepublic. According to their respective articles, the aforementioned songs are each pop rock songs, however, Dirty Diana, while having a commercially-oriented and radio-friendly sound, is nonetheless a bona fide hard rock and heavy metal song, and if it hadn't been recorded by the King of Pop it would not be described as a pop rock song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.240.5.125 (talk) 19:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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Add samples and Covers section
I think a sample /covers section be important especially adding the weeknds cover of dirty diana and the sample that was used In Burna Boys monster you made (Ft Chris martin) Mr Boar1 (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * WP:SONGCOVER sets a high bar to inclusion for cover versions. The cover version should be described as important by the media, or it should chart. Samples need to have a solid reference, for instance the liner notes or WP:SECONDARY sources; whosampledwho.com is not reliable per WP:USERG.
 * Basically, we don't list everything that exists—see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. We only list important things. Binksternet (talk) 16:27, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Adding the genre "glam metal" to this song
Hi, just wanted to know if I could add the genre "glam metal" to this song? Stated to be such in multiple sources:

(1) https://www.stereogum.com/2147147/the-number-ones-michael-jacksons-dirty-diana/columns/the-number-ones/

(2) https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Number_Ones/Jk9jEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22dirty+diana%22+%22michael+jackson%22+%22glam+metal%22&pg=PT179&printsec=frontcover

Thanks! AgentKozak (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I say No, to all your posts for "Glam". - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 18:23, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * All? Please clarify? AgentKozak (talk) 18:37, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Personally, I have issues with your sources, as with any genre source(s), they're just someone's opinion. Please wait to see what other editors say. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 19:08, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks; AgentKozak (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Removal of trivia
It would appear that Sony manufactured a headline for no other reason than they wanted to namedrop the princess. But it doesn't matter if there's a site e that says it. Saying "we thought about not performing the song, but in the end we performed it anyway" is NOT a story. It's utterly pointless. That's why this piece of trivia has been removed. 89.240.48.37 (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * While you may think it's pointless, three other editors disagree with you. OhNo itsJamie Talk 12:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)