Talk:Discoverer's Day

Tau Gauitiao

What give's a pope a right to decree europeans rule over Natives all over the world and especially in the Americas. Giving them the right to Kill Torture Burned Boiled Skinned Feed To Dogs Rape and Pillage and hold families and children under bondage in the name of a european religion. To judge is supposedly in the hands of there God isn't that what it says in the catholic bible not to pass judgement on others. To still hold these holidays as though they "discovered" already flourishing cultures is ignorant and racist. There is no justice or help that will or can be done to reverse the crimes and autrocities done to my people and other Natives and Native Americans from North to South to the Caribbean and Central American. What is done is done and never will be changed and will ultimately be brushed aside in the following generations to come.

Taino Ti

The indians were first people so thank them for corn thank my people

Inter caetera
I doubt that Inter caetera was a justification for Columbus since it's from 1494, and Columbus set sail in 1492.

I doubt that it was a justification for Cook since it concerned Castile and Aragon, not England. And Cook's Britain wasn't even Catholic.

If you cannot provide a citation of Cook or Columbus using Inter Caetera for justification, those lines should be removed. --84.20.17.84 10:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed that Catholic or papal justifications for claiming rights to lands were not cited by Cook in journals. Claims were asserted by reference to the Crown (albeit indirectly asserting their authority from the prevailing religion of that nation). Suggest deleting those statements unless alternative sources can be found Dick G 06:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Disputed content removed and left below: &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 22:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In 1493, Pope Alexander VI issued the Papal Bull Inter caetera that proclaimed that all Christian Europeans had ultimate dominion over newly discovered lands. This was used as a moral permission slip for Columbus and Cook in their exploits.