Talk:Districts of England

Extract
seperating the districts into four groups makes the data harder to extract.

Renamings
Under the renaming section, I think one has been left out. I believe that Nuneaton and Bedworth was renamed from being called just 'Nuneaton'. G-Man 22:31, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Southwark/London border
Hmm. Saying "boundary is not vertical" is somewhat weird here. Is there a defined altitude below which you are in Southwark? Also, the City seems to control the place where the bridge touches down at the Southwark side, for a decent amount, including buildings. I've seen Corporation litterbin collectors go right up to the griffin, which is easily 20m inland, so how does that work here? does southwark covers the foundations? i think we should be told. Morwen - Talk 12:26, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, streetmap shows only London Bridge span to be part of the City. I have a map from 1970 that shows all of Blackfriars and half of London Bridge under City control. I suspect these have been altered at some point. It would be good to find out for sure... MRSC • Talk 12:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tanbridge
The map contains a label for 'TanBridge', which I think should be TanDridge (cf. Tandridge District). 92.234.212.231 (talk) 22:29, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I also spotted the same error on the map. The Surrey district is Tandridge not Tanbridge. 87.113.227.81 (talk) 06:38, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

What do the colours mean on the main map
Hi there, I think it would really be helpful if someone could explain what the colours on the main map mean? With thanks KS 195.188.195.178 (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
 * There is no meaning to the different colours. It's essentially a less-strict case of the four color theorem - using six colours. -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Isle of Wight
I've just been looking through some of the structural change orders, and it seems to me that the two districts of the Isle of Wight were never abolished, just their councils. A bit similar to what happened with Berkshire, just in reverse. If that's the case, then there would be one more district in England. Yamor2 (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

boroughs/districts
Hello ‎Redrose64. According to the Local Government Act 1972, they are defined as "metropolitan districts". However, they all have borough status, hence the terms being used interchangeably. I don't think we should refer to them as "boroughs", while also referring to "non-metropolitan districts", as this suggests all non-metropolitan districts lack borough status.

As for the London boroughs, the London Government Act 1963 consecutively refers to "London boroughs and the City", or similar. An easy way to refer to both of those is "London districts", as that is what they are. I think distinguishing the London boroughs from the City isn't helpful. At the very least, the London boroughs section needs to mention the City.

Rob984 (talk) 10:48, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * They all have formal names like Metropolitan Borough of Bolton or London Borough of Ealing. There is no Metropolitan District of Bolton, London District of Ealing, a London Borough of London or even a London District of London. The City of London is proud of the fact that although it has many of the powers and responsibilities of a London Borough, it is not itself a London Borough. It is outside Metropolitan Police jurisdiction, for example. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And you also have the non-metropolitan district of Brentwood, named the "Borough of Brentwood", and the metropolitan borough of Newcastle upon Tyne, named the "City of Newcastle upon Tyne". There are numerous titles: Borough, Royal Borough, City, Metropolitan borough, etc. There is nothing wrong with calling them "metropolitan boroughs", but contrasting that term with "non-metropolitan districts" is misleading.


 * The City of London cannot be a London borough as London boroughs are defined as within the County of Greater London. It also probably can't be a borough at all considering it is the coterminous with a ceremonial county (I don't think any districts that are coterminous with ceremonial counties have borough status).


 * The Greater London authority covers two counties and 33 districts. For administrative purposes, the two counties in London, and the status of the districts are both irrelevant. Non-metropolitan districts are not distinguished by status, so why distinguish London's districts this way?


 * Rob984 (talk) 11:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The City has a completely different legal status/basis than the London boroughs. It's not distinguished from them because of ceremonial status - it is a different "animal". On the other hand all non-metropolitan districts have the same legal status/basis and the grant of "borough" status is purely ceremonial.


 * I'm sorry Rob984 but once again I find you "re-inventing the wheel". It's really annoying. Argovian (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough is misspelled as Middlesborough on the map.132.185.161.120 (talk) 15:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's something to mention at c:File talk:England Administrative 2010.png. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:22, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Buckinghamshire
Since 1/4/2020 Buckinghamshire is a unitary area and has no districts. The map of English districts is therefore out of date as it still shows the former districts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.32.20 (talk) 21:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Please see my reply in the previous section. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Somerset and Cumbria
The maps need another update: Somerset has become a single unitary authority; Cumbria has split into two unitary authorities, (i) Cumberland and (ii) Westmorland and Furness. IndigoJo (talk) 16:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The changes haven't happened yet; they will occur on 1 April. On that date, and not before, the map File:English districts map coloured by type 2021.svg in the infobox can be replaced by File:English districts map coloured by type 2023.svg, and the numbers in the article will need updating at the same time. There are similar maps waiting for other articles. --  Dr Greg  talk 19:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Berkshire
'Berkshire is unusual, being a non-metropolitan county with no county council and six unitary authority districts. '

I made an edit, since reverted, to remove this. Mainly as it suggests Berkshire is an exception to a norm, where as the current state is there are many different patterns seen across England (Cornwall, one UA for the whole county; Northants two UA for the county; Wiltshire/Bucks one for most of the county - and named as such - and one UA for a large town, etc etc). Foxdown (talk) 14:25, 2 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Berkshire is the only non-metropolitan county that has within in unitary authority areas that are non-metropolitan districts but are not non-metropolitan counties. All other unitary authority areas are both non-metropolitan districts and non-metropolitan counties. The examples you give are UAs within ceremonial counties but not are not within a larger non-metropolitan county. I've now reworded the sentence to try to make it clearer.  Dr Greg  talk 14:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)