Talk:Divine simplicity

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Well that just has to be wrong. How would a Catholic theologian know such a thing? Because he has a mind like mine and .... Paul Beardsell 14:59, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

OK, well done, very much improved. Thanks, that explains it for me. Paul Beardsell 15:41, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Lead
Is there anything else that's generic enough to put in the intro? This article will never hit the Good Articles list with a single line lead. Could we also explore similarities with Tawhid in the intro and eliminate the dab link?. See WP:LEAD MrZaius  talk  14:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Secular parallels
Would links to related secular ideas be at all appropriate in this article? (This article is powerfully reminiscent of Pirsig's metaphysics of quality..) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.108.103 (talk) 00:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes please! Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 05:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

No context, no says-who!
The article lacks information on who proposed the hypothesis, from where it originates (prob the pagan platonism), and what christians adher to it. There are christians for everything, so there are prob also christians that dismiss the idea as a semantically designed taboo. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 05:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry I misread, the article is better than that. The intro needs fixup to introduce the text properly and there are some rugged formulae that must be polished, f.ex.:
 * In Christian thought, God as a simple being is not divisible
 * I can fix such undue generalizations such as adding: "In mainstream Christian tradition". Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 05:58, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

"Infinitely simple"
!!!?? Just contemplating the weird usage of infinity! I'm glad to not be contemporary with Aquinas. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 09:34, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And
 * but a single entity of a oneness even more single and unique than any single thing in creation
 * ! (ROTF! – now thank me for my opinion and dismiss me!) Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 09:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, but does this help? The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "When we say that God is infinite, we mean that He is unlimited in every kind of perfection or that every conceivable perfection belongs to Him in the highest conceivable way. In a different sense we sometimes speak, for instance, of infinite time or space, meaning thereby time of such indefinite duration or space of such indefinite extension that we cannot assign any fixed limit to one or the other. Care should be taken not to confound these two essentially different meanings of the term." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.87.42 (talk) 00:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, perhaps you should cunsult Q 11, article 4 of the Summa Theologica on this subject. It is "Whether God is supremely one?" 24.191.87.42 (talk) 00:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Christian divine simplicity
1) Does the article mention that, like Aquinas says, "God is the same as his essence"?

2) Has divine simplicity ever been infallibly taught, in Catholicism? Whether or not it has been should be in the article, too. 24.191.87.42 (talk) 00:07, 21 March 2012 (UTC) Answer: - It has, by the IV Lateran Council(1215), Decree against Albigenses and Cathars, chapter 1 (Denzinger-Hünermann, n. 800), and the I Vatican Council (1870), Dogmatic Constitution 'Dei Filius', chapter 1 (Denzinger-Hünermann, 3001).

3) The refutation of the criticisms to (Christian) Divine simplicity made by thinkers like Plantinga, Craig and others is to be found in Francisco Suárez, S.J., 'Disputationes Metaphysicae', disputation XXX, section III (Opera omnia, ed. Vives, volume 26).

Latest edit by 67.160.161.80 doesn't make much sense except as apparent vandalism. Please justify here, if reverting. Simplicity classically teaches Divine Essence is same as existence (see 1 above). Cpsoper (talk) 08:16, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Divine simplicity in Jewish thought
Have added short quote from Rambam to crystallise and exemplify the 'no Divine attributes' argument, I think this helps, but happy to discuss.Cpsoper (talk) 08:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Introduction
Helpful article, but it seems appropriate to identify a primary advocate, though not progenitor of Greek thought on Simplicity, one who drew from and interacted with the Alexandrian theologians and philosophers.Cpsoper (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Islamic thought
Simplicity has played a big part in Islamic theological discourse, it ought to be included here. I will try to supply a basic start. Cpsoper (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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