Talk:Do It (Nelly Furtado song)

Needs expanding
Hmm, it seems a little strange that this article is so short, and yet there is a very comprehensive article on the plagiarism controversy surrounding the song at 2007 Timbaland plagiarism controversy. Maybe there should be a summary of that article in this one? Extraordinary Machine 22:34, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * There doesn't seem to be much more to say about this song itself, as its notability is based on the controversy. The 2007 Timbaland plagiarism controversy talks about both this song and the ringtone, and while the summary can be a bit longer, extensive duplicate content should be avoided. Has airplay (if it is played on radio, I wouldn't know) of this song been affected? Any critical reviews of the song? Pomte 23:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Graffiti
In God's Hands was just announced. Of course, Do It is uncomfirmed. Because neither Nelly nor her label has been quoted as saying this. This is graffiti, albeit, benevolent. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Insaneace1 (talk • contribs) 11:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

I agree. Jonwood2 20:10, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Next Single?
Is this song going to be the next single for her album? Yellowstone County Girl 03:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to know this too, it's my favourite song on the album but I can't find any sources that back the statements here up? I hope it's true though! Martyy1 11:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

It has begun getting radio airplay. 211.30.60.106 08:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC) ... and it was announced officially. allacess.com. 211.30.60.106 10:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Missy Elliot
Apparently Missy Elliot remixed it, and it has been leaked? 211.30.60.106 05:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Unneeded section headers
Guide_to_layout recommends (for good reason) against short sections, which is particularly relevant to this article, in which the paragraphs about the music video and plagiarism allegations controversy are not large enough for their own sections. Even if this wasn't the case, note that only first words and proper nouns should be capitalised in section headers; thus, "Music video", not "Music Video". Extraordinary Machine 18:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Cover
WEll, I saw this cover, and it think its a foney because I saw it on this other website and it made by this guy thats a fan of Nelly Furtado. So I'm not sure if thats the cover? Explode24 (UTC)

I saw it too & it's definitely not the real cover. 211.30.60.106 10:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, maybe we should delete it? You decide yes or no?

Explode24 21:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian Time)

Cover again
The cover at the moment is this a fan-made cover or is this cover on the official cover because it looks fan made. Explode24 15:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)(Australian time)

Cover
People, stop putting fake covers. I am deleting it.Explode24 18:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian time)

Maybe you should stop deleting the REAL cover then. Martyy1 10:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

And how do you know that this is the real cover? Wheres your sorce saying that it is the final and proper cover for "Do It"? Explode24 20:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian time)

Try clicking on the image and following the source that is provided. Martyy1 13:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Already did, but it doesn't mention that its the real cover. It just advertising the song on her website. Its not the official cover. .Explode24 16:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian time)

It's still a form of identifying the song, and the official iTunes USA cover, so it should be left. As it has only been slated as a digital download in the USA and Canada at the moment, this is currently the official cover. Martyy1 06:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

"it was alleged"
Added this part to the intro as, after all, the case is still in appeals. Tooironic (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

According to Janne Suni the composer of the original track the case was closed and resolved.

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GA article?
I want to know what this article needs to be done for it to become a good article? Garry says OK (talk) 23:03, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

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Dubious
Hi I noticed you reverted the edit of deleting your add on of claiming the songwriters or songwriter as dubious… You didn't even explain your excuse of adding it on your edit summary from January and still didn’t yesterday. You also didn’t even care to start a discussion on why you feel it’s dubious when it’s clearly sourced by coming from the albums liner notes, nor did you care to start a discussion on the albums page Loose. It’s sourced within the albums liner notes which is cited within the article. I will also be including a source coming from Nellys official YouTube channel of the song which is states all 3 (Nelly, Timbaland and Danja) are the songwriters of the song. If you still feel as if this is dubious then I would recommend opening a discussion on the articles talk page, or reply back to me. If you can’t do either of those things then I would recommend leaving it alone because it’s clearly not dubious. 

Thank you Pillowdelight (talk) 02:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)


 * As it has been revealed that Timbaland simply remixed a song by another artist and then claimed it as his own work I would say his claim of writing it is dubious. That he lied in the liner notes and a YouTube clip does not invalidate better sources. // Liftarn (talk) 05:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


 * This source claims it was settled in court, no where does it state they had to be credited as songwriters on the song. So placing it as dubious isn’t necessary especially if it’s already been settled in court in 2009.

Pillowdelight (talk) 11:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


 * And? We should still say who the songwriter(s) actually are, not just duplicate liner notes. // Liftarn (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Again, it was settled in court. Just because he got sued for plagiarizing the song doesn’t mean the songwriters of the original song need to be credited. Especially if they didn’t ask to be credited or were ruled by the court to be credited. The only way they would have to be credited is if a source claims they were to be credited. Which didn’t happen. But from the source coming from the Medium as I linked on my previous message doesn’t state anything about them having to be credited. Also this isn’t even a requirement for Wiki guidelines.

Pillowdelight (talk) 13:21, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I looked at BMI Songview Search https://repertoire.bmi.com/ and it has an entry for Furtado's song "Do It". (There are a ton of songs named the same, and you have dig pretty deep before Furtado comes up.) The BMI webpage includes ASCAP songwriters, and it names all the people who have rights to song royalties, which is where the rubber hits the road with regard to who is really credited as the songwriter. The Furtado "Do It" entry lists Nelly Kim Furtado and Timothy Z. Mosley as the only two songwriters. If Nate "Danja" Hills helped in some way to write the song, Furtado and Timbaland cut him out where it counts. I can see on the CD liner notes and the AV media labels that Danja is credited as the third songwriter, so now we have a contradiction in our sources. We can try and figure out which one is correct, bringing in new evidence to sway the issue, or we can tell the reader in prose that Danja was listed as songwriter on the various AV media but not registered as co-composer with BMI/ASCAP. Binksternet (talk) 23:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)


 * That’s not even what we’re discussing about. But I do believe Danja should be listed as I wouldn’t even trust BMI. Plus makes no sense that he’d be listed on the liner notes, her Spotify credits on the song and YouTube credits on the song, both of which being sourced by coming from the databases of Mosley & Geffen.

Pillowdelight (talk) 07:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Regardless of liner notes. It is a known fact that the song (apart from lyrics) is a remix (muted bassline and added drums) of the Glenn Rune Gallefoss arrangement of Janne Suni's original music. // Liftarn (talk) 09:05, 25 August 2021 (UTC)