Talk:Dog collar

Changes in dog society from research?
Anon user has posted here and in dog society that recent research says there is no dominance hierarchy. I've heard or read nothing to that effect. Has anyone heard such a thing and are there sources to cite for this? Elf | Talk 02:46, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have learned so much in the last few years. There is TONS of research out there showing that "dominance hierarchy" among dogs and people is nonsense and that Cesar Milan, in particular, has misused this outdated theory as an excuse to use aversive techniques for training dogs (kicking, grabbing, choking, etc.). If anyone else encounters this comment, I'd be glad to provide additional information. Elf | Talk 18:38, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Training collars section cleanup
The section listing training collars has inconsistent formatting and bad grammer, especially the section on Head Collars. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.30.113.33 (talk) 13:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC).
 * I've just removed the notice, as the section appears to have been previously cleaned up. Elf | Talk 03:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Slip Collars
There is no consensus about the use of slip collars. The bolded statement about not using slip collars for regular training is not neutral. I've marked it as not being neutral. ( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.213.195 (talk • contribs)


 * I've just removed the notice, as the statement you refer to no longer seems to be in the article, and on reading the section, it appears to give a balanced picture. Elf | Talk 03:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Woodhouse Collar?
This section would benefit from a discussion of the Woodhouse training collar, as it is significantly more effective and humane than traditional "choke" collars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colligation (talk • contribs) on July 28, 2007.
 * As far as I can tell, the woodhouse collar is a choke collar. Can you provide more info on how the collar differs? Elf | Talk 18:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Cesar Millans "Illusion Collar"
I think there should be a section about this unique collar. It's effective and does not hurt your pooch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.27.162 (talk) 23:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The illusion collar is a choke collar wrapped in a fancy package. The illusion is that you're not using a choke collar, but guess what, you are!  Lots of pictures of his "illusion" collar  Elf | Talk 18:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Merge
I propose that Amour Amour Diamond Dog Collar be merged here; it's an article on a specific dog collar and I don't think it really needs its own article (or like 12 sources), but I didn't dare merge it without a discussion because it has so many sources attached to it.-- T K K  bark !  14:13, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with this merge proposal. The article on dog collars is a general article about types of collars (flat, prong, etc.), whereas the Amour Amour is a specific collar brand. In reality the Amour Amour appears to be a simple, albeit expensive, buckle collar (http://www.ilovedogsdiamonds.com/amour-amour-p-1.html). At most it warrants a mention in the "See also" section but not a section of its own. For a parallel situation, see Automobile and Bugatti (which the Amour Amour is claimed to resemble): Automobile is an overview article about cars without a section on Bugatti, and the specific Bugatti article is separate. — Molly-in-md (talk) 11:32, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree. Elf | Talk 17:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Article is biased towards prong collars
I feel this article is biased towards the use of prong collars. One source is cited twice. She denounces head collars and praises prong collars. There are plenty of professional trainers who say just the opposite. Just as there is "controversy" over the head collar, There is controversy over the prong collar. It's a debate between the two. Google "prong collar vs. gentle leader" and you'll see what I mean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.64.160 (talk) 21:43, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The article has changed quite a bit since March of 2010. If you stop by here again, see what you think now. Elf | Talk 18:40, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Not him but the prong collar section is still a mess. It was recently edited to be anti-prong with plenty snide comments, an unsourced sentence pointing to the existence of footage showing the dogs are in discomfort, and quotes added around key words for sarcasm (eg: proper prong collar use -> "proper" prong collar use). Whole thing reads like an angry rant, summary is even Eliminated misinformation and misleading language.
 * Not that the previous version is good at all either, definitely pro-prong and contains unencyclopedic gems such as "properly care for your furry friend". 213.94.18.239 (talk) 17:45, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

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History of dog collars
This article is only about different types of collars. It would be nice, if some history was added to this article.88.114.196.62 (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2020 (UTC)