Talk:Doggerland

Origin of name
I see this was discussed ten years ago. But without reliable source it is just Original Research which is against Wikipedia policy. The Encyclopaedia Brittanica does discuss the issue which I seem to recall could be a reliable source for Wikipedia- although the wording in the article would then need to change. Dakinijones (talk) 18:15, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * What aspect do you need a source for? The naming of Dogger Bank from "Dogger" (which would be a matter for the Dogger Bank article), or the naming of "Doggerland" after the Dogger Bank (for which a source seems to me to be unnecessary, as it's obvious).   Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)   PS: Source now added, for avoidance of any confusion. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

New source
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets -- Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

why “england”?
The Angles and the gang didn't exist yet, and were like thousands of years away from the first anglish person living on the island, so why write the article as though the modern nation state was impacted? Kikila mai Tawhiti (talk) 17:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)


 * The article menitions the English Channel a few times, and "a large tidal bay between eastern England and Dogger Bank". Otherwise, the article refers to Brtiain or Great Britain. To me, those all seem like appropriate ways to identify geograpical areas. If you think something is inappropriate here, either identify exactly where that is, or be bold and change it yourself. Nø (talk) 15:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Santiano album
I honestly don’t see why this is getting reverted aside from spite. I consistently pointed out relevance while the other user simply reverted. It clearly falls under WP:NOTCITE, plus all relevant information about the album is in the text. The album and the song are named after the topic. Even if you do not speak German a simple Google research would’ve told you that, the cover is literally a sunken civilization. Also, User:Dudley Miles seems to be unaware of the topic he consistently reverts around, as there are dozens of articles (academic and non-academic) detailing various myths from various cultures relating to Doggerland if you simply type Doggerland myths into your search engine. A simple 5 minute research could’ve avoided all of this. DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 11:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree that the mention should be removed. It's trivia, and content like this is routinely removed across the project. What establishes relevance is coverage in reliable, secondary, independent sources. Woodroar (talk) 15:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Then kindly explain to me what sets an album by a multi-platinum band themed around the topic apart from the made-for-TV documentaries in the same section? It is called “in media” after all, and both might be the most relevant popular culture exposure the topic has gotten. DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 11:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * There is indeed a vast amount of internet nonsense about the Atlantis of the North etc, but nothing you could properly call a "myth", since the idea dates back only 150 years at most. Personally I'm more lax than some about popular culture mentions, but I can see that here there is a fear that once you start all sorts of stuff will flood in. Johnbod (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Two documentaries are referred to. One is unreferenced and I have deleted it. The other is referenced in reliable secondary sources, unlike your edit. You refer in your edit to "the Doggerland myth", which implies that there is one specific myth, not the internet nonsense commented on by Johnbod, and which is not a subject for Wikipedia. Dudley Miles (talk) 11:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * And I pointed out multiple times why it is a clear case of WP:NOTCITE. But I take it you would stop removing it if there were a source so you can feel accomplished? DasallmächtigeJ (talk) 11:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)