Talk:Don Mueang International Airport

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The official airport name i--Redflowers 14:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)s Bangkok International Airport located in Don Muang district, north of bangkok. Although it's known that anytime we -the natives- say "Don Muang" it means Bangkok Airport, we didn't call "ท่าอาการศยานดอนเมือง" or "Don Muang Airport". We just say "Don Muang" or "Bangkok Airport".
 * The name Don Mueang Airport was the airport's old name when it moved from Sa Pathum palace. Then it was changed to Bangkok Airport and Bangkok International Airport. And... it still uses that name to date even though all commercial flight moved to Suvarnabhumi Airport. Bangkok Airport will be used for charter flight, Government officer's filght.BratBoyz 15:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Opened in 1914 and the airfield was in use earlier? Seems a bit early to me. — KayEss | talk 04:00, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Managed to find some early history to confirm this. It has now been added to the article   — KayEss | talk 04:26, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Johannesburg
Flights due to start in Oct. 2006 Grusl 21:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

state-owned company or a private one?
Can anyone show me wether the Bangkok International Airport is a state-owned company or a private company?

Thanks,

--Redflowers 14:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Bangkok Int'l Airport is owned by Airports of Thailand Public Company Limited;AOT(http://www.airportthai.co.th), which is a listed company in the Stock Exchange of Thailand. However, the largest shareholder of AOT is still Thai's Ministry of Finance with a 70% stake, while the remaining 30% held by institutional and retail investors.

Official name is Suvarnabhumi Airport
The official name of the airport is Suvarnabhumi Airport. With the closing of Don Muang International Airport, it is Bangkok's international airport, and the name Bangkok International Airport should redirect to Suvarnabhumi Airport, not the other way around. -Wisekwai 03:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The page move
Here's how it should be:
 * Suvarnabhumi Airport should be the name of the article. Like it or not, Suvarnabhumi Airport is official name of the airport.
 * Don Mueang International Airport should be the name of the old airport article.
 * Bangkok International Airport should be a disambiguation page, which gives links to both the old and new airports. Or, the link is a redirect to Suvarnabhumi (not the other way around) and then a disambig link to the Don Mueang article should be placed at the top of the Suvarnabhumi page.

I'm not sure where the talk pages fit in this mess, though I suppose the related talk pages for Don Mueang (old Bangkok International Airport) and Suvarnabhumi (new airport) should stay with their respective pages.

An admin will have to do this move to sort the talk pages out. A request has been put in at Requested moves--Wisekwai 04:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with Suvarnabhumi being known as Bangkok International Airport? I know Suvarnabhumi is the official name, but to make it easy, just let Suvarnabhumi be Bangkok International Aiport. At the start of Suvarnabhumi's article, there can be a sentence like this Bangkok International Airport redirects here. For the old airport, see Don Mueang International Airport. --Ter e nce Ong (T 05:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In the case of that redirect example, that would be if Suvarnabhumi was the name of the page. I think the best solution would be to name the page Suvarnabhumi Airport and have Bangkok International Airport redirect to it. Then a disambig link at the top could read something like. This page is about the New Bangkok International Airport. For the old airport, see Don Mueang International Airport. --Wisekwai 06:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, with Suvarnabhumi's page being Bangkok International Airport. Therefore, the sentence will be like that This page refers to the Suvarnabhumi Airport, for the old airport, see Don Mueang International Airport. --Ter e nce Ong (T 06:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, whatever works, and as long as people can get access to accurate information, then I guess the name across the top of the page isn't that big a deal, to me anyway, today. --Wisekwai 07:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Don Muang or Don Mueang?
The new name really should be "Don Muang" and not "Don Mueang". The latter may be the official or academic transliteration from the Thai, but 99% of everyone in the travel/airline/etc. industry writes "Don Muang". Wikipedia guidelines urge use of the most common English name for things, rather than formally "correct" or official/academic names. --MCB 06:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The new name is the old name is the same name. Anyway, there's some very formal, academically correct Wikipedians who have been working hard at creating probably dozens of articles with the Mueang spelling for many cities, towns, districts and other geographic entities, as well as the airport. I'm all for the generally accepted spelling, but on Wikipedia there should be some consistency. However, even in the article itself, the spellings are not consistent. --Wisekwai 07:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, in the article - at least the last time I looked - it's mostly Muang, except the title and top section. I should probably raise this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. --MCB 17:51, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, if the sign in the airport (not the one appearing on highway, roadmaps, books, or elsewhere) says, "Don Muang", I will go with "Don Muang". But if it's spelled differently in different places, I will pick the official spelling. I think the big letters on airport building says "Don Muang". -- Lerdsuwa 13:26, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Don Muang also whups Don Mueang by 438,000 to 15,000 in a Googlefight. Jpatokal 10:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * "Don Muang", since that is the official name of the airport. For "Don Mueang", it is not used as the named for the airport, so Don Muang should be used. If the government uses the name "Don Muang" then we should be also using the same thing. Other articles that use "Mueang" it doesn't really matter. Terence Ong 11:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well well, looks like the new official name is Don Mueang with the e:. Jpatokal 14:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Since the airport itself has now officially adopted the standard RTGS spelling "Don Mueang" I have adapted the article accordingly. &minus;Woodstone 15:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Since its official, this article will use "Don Mueang". Wonder if there could be some picture of Don Muang after it reopens today. P.S. Anyone has pictures of planes at Don Mueang Airport? Terence 17:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't get it. Where does it say Don Mueang is official? All of the news point to me the spelling is Don Muang --> CNN, Aljazeera, Bangkok Post, Thai News Agency MCOT, Don Muang Online official website, even the Suvarnabhumi website point to Don Muang airport, Luchtzak agency also said it is renamed to Don Muang. Please reconsider your officialness. --Zack2007 12:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * On March 24, 2007 there was an article in the Bangkok Post:
 * "The Don's agreed, but is it Muang or Mueang?" containing the paragraph:
 * "...So Mr Pinit turned to linguistic experts, including the Royal Institute and Chulalongkorn University's faculty of arts, to garner advice on the English spelling of the old airport's name. All experts he spoke to at these and other language institutes agreed it should be Mueang, not Muang as it had always been before, he said. This problem gave me such a headache, he said. Now I have to keep all evidence with me to back up that decision..."
 * &minus;Woodstone 18:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The thing is wikipedia dosent strive to be accurate. It hinges on third-party usage, and it is obvious that popular usage as well as official usage tends to be Muang, not Mueang.--Huaiwei 22:55, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Don Muang Online is not an official website, but a guide to Don Muang airport same as for the Suvarnabhumi website that links to Don Muang Online. I am actually confused, so is it "Muang" or "Mueang"? I really hope someone can clarify this asap. Terence 14:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not that difficult to find its official website, which clearly reads Don Muang.--Huaiwei 15:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * According to Use_common_names, we ought to use the most common name. Obviously Don Muang is more common then Don Mueang. --Zack2007 10:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The sign on the airport building now says "Don Mueang International Airport". --Lerdsuwa (talk) 16:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you had not noticed that before, but it's been like that since very soon after the opening of the new airport. Also most of the road signs in Bangkok were modified at that time to read "don mueang". &minus;Woodstone (talk) 17:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What is the new code for Don Muang?
There seems to be a discrepancy among sources. I reverted to DMK based on preponderance of sources most likely to be reliable. --MCB 01:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

DMK

 * http://gc.kls2.com/airport/DMK
 * http://www.angkor.com/2bangkok/2bangkok/forum/showthread.php?p=11803
 * http://www.rati.com/APLANDING_13290.htm
 * http://www.aircargonews.com/061011/news061011.html#dmk
 * http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?countrysearch=Thailand&distinct_entry=true
 * http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:IiL4Qv3_Zl4J:www.kweusa.com/newsroom/IU/Industry%2520Update%25209.06.pdf+don+muang+dmk&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=firefox-a
 * http://travel.independent.co.uk/news_and_advice/article1700579.ece]
 * http://www.missioneco.org/thailande/documents_new.asp?V=4_HTML_8468
 * http://www.thailand-uk.com/Glossary/index.php
 * http://www.fbta.net/uutiset/index.php?id=347&group=00000024&mag_nr=6
 * http://www.inatom.info/Bangkok
 * http://home.wspan.com/newsroom/gday.cfm?archives=yes

DBK

 * http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/sbia/
 * http://www.bangkok.com/travel-news-update/suvarnabhumi-fact-sheet.html
 * http://www.flightstats.com/go/Forum/forumViewThread.do?threadId=663
 * http://www.thaihotelsbooking.com/bangkok_new_airport.htm
 * http://www.airlinetickets.de/iata_codes_a-z.php3?ic=B

No more Budget flights on Don Muang
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DMK dab
Your views and opinion are welcome on this issue. Cheers Wiki San Roze†αLҝ 21:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Seizures
Nothing on the current seizures of the airport? --Bentonia School (talk) 05:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Speculation
The piece states, "it is speculated that Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 will later be utilised as LCC Terminal (sic)." Why would an "encyclopedia" speculate? Speculation is best left to tabloids. This claim is marked as needing citation when, in fact, it needs to be removed. Even if the source of the speculation could be cited -- why would speculation be needed in an "encyclopedia"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.220.193.142 (talk) 23:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

world's oldest commercial airport
The article states that this is the oldest commercial airport, because the first commercial air flight arrived there. Logically, surely the oldest would be the airport from which the flight departed, and the airport at which it arrived would be the second oldest! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.170.240.10 (talk) 10:44, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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