Talk:Donald Trump's Real Estate Tycoon

Notability
If there's anything that makes this game notable, it's that it features a real-life entrepreneur. As for sources, I think that can be applied. For some reason, those who have editing this page didn't bother to put any. FoxLad (talk) 01:11, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited Donald Trump's name on the software carries no weight when it come to the notability requirements. I agree no one put references in the article, mostly because there are almost no reliable sources about it. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Clarification of mobile platforms
On the page, it simply says that this game was released for 'Mobile'. Clicking the link simply leads to the page for 'Mobile devices'.

Does anyone know what platforms the game was released for? 76.164.146.89 (talk) 23:41, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The N-Gage QD was one of them. I added that to the page. Also, it seems that mobile devices and mobile phones are two separate things. The sources say it was released for mobile phones, so I changed that as well. AJFU (talk) 14:19, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Mentioning the fact that Trump is a future US president
I edited the lede of the article about 3 days ago to reflect the fact that Trump was a future U.S. president. These edits were reverted by, citing the rationale: "Not the case when the game was released, Trump became president this year, not in 2000."

I countered with "No reason to not state that Trump was a future U.S. president. See Trump: The Art of the Deal, Trump: Surviving at the Top, and Trump: The Art of the Comeback. It would be inconsistent not to state the fact."

Two days later, Lordtobi reverted my edits again, this time stating: "The game did not influence his presidency and vice versa. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS on other pages, rather it should be removed there as well." Lordtobi then proceeded to remove statements that Donald Trump was a future U.S. president on Trump: The Art of the Deal, Trump: Surviving at the Top, and Trump: The Art of the Comeback, citing the same rationale.

I would like to generate a consensus on how to proceed here.  CatcherStorm    talk   05:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Note: I did not edit Surviving at the Top, the fact that he became president in the way we had it here or at the two other books was not present in the first place, however, it is still noted that he was elected so in a different, notable context (see the article's lead). Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 09:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see the benefit of mentioning and linking to United States president in the lead, when the article is about a video game named after Trump as a business magnate. The game was released in 2002, so in the context of Trump, it hasn't got anything to do with him being the current U.S. President. It's not Donald Trump's Politics Tycoon. The word "politician" is sufficient in this case. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 09:48, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
 * In the current version of the lede, Donald Trump is described as an "American business magnate and politician". If we argue that we must be restrained to Trump's role at the time of the game release, this is incorrect, because he was not a politician, and imprecise because the key business of Trump was real estate, as is the game's theme. We should use just "American real estate magnate". Anybody who has lived in an offline cave in Balochistan for the last two years can click the Donald Trump link to learn that he is now U.S. President. (No offense meant to the fine people of Baloch…) — JFG talk 06:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, technically, he was politically active at the time as he ran for president two years earlier, but yes, real estate is primary in a timed view and especially with focus on the article's context. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 15:41, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Don't mention it in this article, unless a reliable source has linked the two. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:05, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing it. Suppose he had landed on the Moon.  Would readers of this article want to know that here?  I think that would be dead wood to be cut.  I tend to think that the word "politician" can be cut, too.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:07, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * This is assigning too much weight to the sense of Donald Trump as president, which is clearly irrelevant to this article. --Izno (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I would incline towards keeping a person's title and/or job description contemporaneous with the subject in question. Since Trump was not a politician in 2004, it seems anachronistic to make a point of mentioning that he is one now.  It seems a bit like saying "everyone at college used to get along very well with Professor Hawking" when describing Stephen Hawking's own days as an undergraduate.  Cpaaoi (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)