Talk:Doomsday (2008 film)/Archive 1

Hoskins onboard

 * Citation for use. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 05:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Citation for use. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 05:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Film details

 * Some information, but nothing that seems very useful. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 21:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Some information, but nothing that seems very useful. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 21:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like we need to re-define Kane. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 02:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like we need to re-define Kane. —Erik (talk • contrib • review) - 02:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Headlines. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Neil Marshall Previews Doomsday at Comic-Con
 * Neil Marshall Interview, DoomsDay
 * Neil Marshall's Doomsday Trailer Debut at Comic-Con + Posters
 * Comic-Con '07: Rogue Pictures Panel
 * Marshall's Doomsday Recalls '80s Films

Headlines. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Doomsday director's gory vision
 * Malcolm McDowell Delivers ‘Doomsday’ Details
 * Exclusive Interview: Neil Marshall
 * Hot heroines in apocalyptic flicks
 * Rogue marketing moves to Universal
 * Horror stories: Scotland now a top location for film-makers raising hell

Headlines. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 01:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Director of Post-Apocalyptic Thriller Doomsday Launches Behind the Scenes Production Blog
 * 'Doomsday' has apocalypse wow
 * Neil Marshall imagines a wild 'Doomsday'
 * 'Doomsday' to open Fantasy Nights
 * Neil Marshall - Doomsday Interview
 * Interview: 'Doomsday' Director Neil Marshall
 * EXCL: Doom-Sayer Neil Marshall
 * Who says scare tactics don't make business sense?

I disagree with Erik.
When I looked for "Doomsday (movie)" I was expecting the movie. Is Erik forgetting that people often use brackets if they are looking for anything particular? I really think the dabnote should stay, so let's discuss this. I think it should stay because Doomsday is also a title for the Superman animated movie. Don't forget that people use brackets if they are looking for something particular. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 12:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the notion that people would type anything in parentheses. I've looked at quite a few redirects to film articles, and I've never seen a (movie) unless someone was unfamiliar with naming conventions and the article had to then be moved to (film).  In addition, WP:DAB says that it should only be for titles that are the same, where Superman: Doomsday and Doomsday are not the same.  I just think if a user was aware enough to use parentheses to search, he or she would know that if that didn't work out, visiting the disambiguation page would be the best chance.  For me, I usually search for a likely disambiguation page then when I know the film article's title, I'll usually type that specific title from thereon. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 16:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Intro
''The film takes place in a post-apocalyptic world that has been mostly wiped out by a lethal virus. Rhona Mitra stars as the heroine who leads a team to seek a cure in inhospitable Scotland when the virus begins to belatedly emerge in their preserved homeland of England.''

Unless I missed something, I believe this is incorrect. It seems the virus only broke out in Scotland, not most the world. England is only partially cut off from the rest of the world because of the horrible things they did to the scottish. So...I am going to change that. Just letting you know. ShieldDane (talk) 03:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Boston Massacre
I find this particular part of the Synopsis useless: "(take note of the Boston Massacre allusion here)". Anyone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.243.152 (talk) 18:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're right; it's been removed. I haven't seen the film, so I've avoided reading that section.  If you want, you can continue expanding that section by following the style guidelines on how to write a plot. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 19:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

unable to access the restricted section in main website
the restricted section in the doomsday film website has some problems. I typed in all the validation requirements of name, age, place, and date of births (wanted a format of MM/DD/YYYY). I know I'm 18 and older and I should be allowed in. However, when I validate the info, it says there is an error. Did anyone encounter this problem?--Dark paladin x (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know why it doesn't work, but you may want to ask on the film's IMDb page. In the future, it's probably best to use IMDb discussions instead of talk pages, since on Wikipedia's talk pages, we're supposed to focus on discussion about improving the article. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 18:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Editing
I don't think that it's appropriate to mention average shot length in the article because Berardinelli is clearly referring to the action sequences, so that cannot refer to an average across the whole film. I'd be happy to include information that specifically addresses the technical detail of editing for this film, but I don't think citing the reviewer is fitting here. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 21:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You seem to contradict yourself, you said "This is already mentioned by two reviewers in Critical reaction". And I think important properties of a film should be mentioned. They are not OR if they are obvious.--Patrick (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not contradicting myself. I didn't support mention of the average shot length because that technical measurement is not explicitly mentioned by the two reviewers.  The general notion of how there was quick editing embedded in the film is mentioned.  Their opinions of the editing of some scenes does not directly correlate with the average shot length. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 02:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You said "This is already mentioned" and you also say it is something different!--Patrick (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was trying to clarify in my previous comment that the article already covered the general notion of the film having quick editing in some scenes. Hmm, how about this -- we take Berardinelli's quote in the article, and pipe-link "rapid-fire editing" to average shot length?  Do you think that would work?  The film will come out in the UK in May, so we may be able to expand on more technical detail besides just reviews, depending on the coverage.  What do you think? — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 22:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * According to MOSQUOTE linking from within a quotation seems to be discouraged.--Patrick (talk) 22:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * So much for that. I agree with that manual of style's assessment, though, about interpreting the quote to point toward a specific link.  This is kind of what I meant earlier by stating that an editor's perspective of how a film's editing affects its quality does not necessarily mean evidence of a film's technical detail.  Still wanting to include it?  I can review my Google Alerts for any new headlines about the film and look through Newsbank for the past week (I think I checked for new headlines a week ago). — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Properties of a film which become evident when watching it don't need a reference, the film itself is the source.--Patrick (talk) 23:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Then why did you attempt to use a reference from a third-party, published source? :) I think that per WP:PSTS, being able to personally construe that the average shot length of a film was short requires specialist knowledge, and neither of us are specialists.  We're not really in a position to judge that kind of technicality, and the reviews don't address the length explicitly.  Films like Batman Begins have periodic quickly-edited scenes but can be mostly "normal" in length otherwise. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 23:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It is not a technicality but a basic and obvious property. There is little variation in it throughout the film, so taking the average is trivial.--Patrick (talk) 23:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Citation dump
Headlines. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Doomsday: A VFX Cure for the Reaper Virus -- visual effects coverage
 * Dressed to kill -- review from The Prague Post
 * Neil Marshall's 10 Post-Apocalyptic Picks -- inspirations for Doomsday
 * Rhona Mitra: she's Mad Max in mascara for Brit thriller Doomsday -- a little about Mitra's role
 * Harbinger Of Doom -- interview with director
 * Wall of death -- interview with director
 * Doomed to fail -- review from Liverpool Daily Post
 * Talking Shop: Neil Marshall -- interview with director
 * Doomsday UK Review -- IGN UK review
 * Killer location -- article
 * Together Till DOOMSDAY -- article

Headlines to use. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Home media review
Reviews. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Doomsday (Unrated) DVD Review
 * Doomsday: Unrated
 * Doomsday [Unrated]
 * Blu-ray Review: Doomsday
 * Doomsday: Unrated (2008)
 * Doomsday (2008) DVD Review
 * DVD Review: Doomsday
 * Doomsday: Unrated

Appearance at Halloween Horror Nights
A house/maze based on the film is appearing at the Halloween Horror Nights event in Orlando this year and may warrant a mention in the article. A link to the press release that mentions it is here (for now at least). In the past other articles on films and characters that have appeared at the event have mentioned this fact, including Dead Silence and the featured article Jason Voorhees so there is some precedent to including it in the article. I don't know where it would fit in the article in its current form (and I'm not going to add a "Trivia" section because of the status of this article), but if it is expanded it could be added somewhere, which is why I'm leaving this here on the talk page in case someone finds a place for it. 66.177.175.115 (talk) 17:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers
Can't something be done about this? I hate coming across spoilers. Reading an article on a movie and just trying to get some background information, what character is who and who played them. For Sol, the next two words are Kane's son. I know its not giving away the final plot, but I think that was a good twist and I didn't see it coming. (I first saw Cally inthe cell and I wondered why she was in there) Tydamann (talk) 13:19, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't use spoiler warnings, I'm afraid.Mr T (Based) (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Scotland
Scotland is a country, not a "region", changed it. Its all the small things :P. 217.42.189.229 (talk) 15:42, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

A fine effort
I found this article a thorough and edifying read, congratulations to the authors. Sincerely, Skomorokh,  barbarian  04:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)