Talk:Doris Angleton

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I have deleted this as a clear example of reader sabotage.

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I did massive article cleanup on this. How do I get it reviewed and get more specific directions? Narnibird 00:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Here's one. Don't use her first name on second and later references. Call her "Angleton" throughout the article, not "Doris," except in cases where there is confusion about which Angleton is being referred to (her or her husband). Moncrief 12:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Notability
With no disrespect intended to Doris Angleton, her family, and friends, I would like to ask whether this person is notable. The guidelines for victims under Notability (criminal acts) says the following, "Victims of high-profile crimes do not automatically qualify as notable enough to have a stand-alone article solely based on their status as victims. Notability with regards to this is defined as satisfying some other aspect of the notability of persons guideline that does not relate to the crime in question. As such, a victim of a crime should normally only be the subject of an article where an article that satisfied notability criteria existed, or could have properly been created prior to the crime's commission. Thus, attempts at inclusion prompted by appearance in the press should not be excluded if notability can be otherwise asserted." In this case I don't think Doris Angleton meets the notability requirements outside of the context of her murder. Even if the crime itself is notable the article should be about the murder and not a biography of the victim. An example would be Murder of Kathryn Faughey. Note that in order for the crime to be notable, it must be covered on a national or global scope; a fact that is not necessarily established here by the cited references. I am refraining from taking this to an AFD for the moment in the hopes that my concerns will be addressed by someone more familiar with the topic and another solution found.Nrswanson (talk) 14:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * agree with the non-notable assumption.
 * How does the fact that he was murdered make him notable, or more so than the person itself? There are many killed every day and week, and even for the reasons similiar to him outside the country, that are simply not notable just because they happened to be in "controversial" circumstances (for lack of a better term). Why can he not be listed as a victims of homophobia in a section on the said relevant page. Lihaas (talk) 13:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Uh... did you even read this article Lihaas. I know I've made this suggestion on a few cases involving the LGBT community, but this isn't one of them. The victim here was a heterosexual woman and in this case the sources and my further research are showing national coverage, so I think this one meets notability as a crime. However, the article should be about the murder and not the person.Nrswanson (talk) 15:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Woopsie, daisy. I copied from the other article as I had already lost some info just before it, then I pasted here. It's verbatim from there.
 * But nonetheless, her standing is hardly notable. She doesn't have the background + entertainment "status" as does Paris Hilton. The Vanessa Leggett contempt case may add to some notability if it leads to some precedent, then of course this could be put as background.
 * Also see Roger Angleton for notability. As well as Robert Angleton Lihaas (talk) 11:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason why I say it is notable is because of the crime getting national coverage. I made this article in the very early days of Wikipedia, when many of our policies had not been fully formed, hence the tone is/was odd. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposed name change
Given that Doris is only notable for being a murder victim, I propose that we change the title to 'Murder of Doris Angleton and the focus of the article to reflect that aspect. Personally, I think the most notable aspect of this case was the attempt to try her husband twice for it despite double jeopardy laws. I plan to flesh out that section when I get a chance. Thoughts? Bali88 (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You are quite correct to suggest renaming this article, as it only briefly mentions Doris Angleton. I will suggest the move.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:00, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

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