Talk:Dormanstown

Rambling ...
This article has got quite a lot to its merit - but does tend to repeat itself and ramble. Perhaps the original author would look at it again before the heavies get hold of it.

1. Some parts refer to Dormanstown as being associated with Redcar - and then spin off on a tangent to talk about Redcar. This article is about Dormanstown. What about businesses? What about schools?

2. There are some very long sentences - mostly about how the houses are better/private/etc. ... as if the writer is thinking up things as they write.

3. Does anyone know of who designed Dormanstown? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.139.211 (talk) 11:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure we can do better :) Francis Hannaway 07:30, 22 May 2010 (UTC)francish7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Francish7 (talk • contribs)

Recent copyright violations
Recent edits have added large amounts of copywritten information from this external site. This violates Wikipedia's policy on adding copywritten material. I've mentioned this on the editor's talk page; I'm hoping someone can keep an eye on the article and help the editor out with questions. Thanks, Northumbrian (talk) 15:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I am new to Wikipedia editing, and to be frank it's a daunting place to figure out, so please bare with me as none of my actions are to do bad. I guess I am not allowed to take information from another website? MH1987 (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, what we cannot legally do is copy large sections of material word-for-word from other sources. That violates the copyright policy I link to earlier.
 * What we can and should do is add material that is verifiable from other reliable sources, and then cite those sources in the running text so that they appear as references in the References section at the bottom of the article.
 * As an example, take a look at the artcle for the KC Stadium. None of the material there is copied word-for-word from anywhere else; instead, information is taken from reliable sources (such as news articles, journals, official website, etc.), and those sources are referenced with footnotes.
 * I certainly sympathize with you; it can be very daunting learning how Wikipedia works. I've been here four years and still learn new things. But there are lots of resources available for new editors. I've added a welcome template to your user talk page just now, that has some very useful links on how to get started. And of course, lots of established users are happy to answer questions. Northumbrian (talk) 15:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

What is wrong with the source I have been adding to the wiki, it's reliable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MH1987 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The big problem with what you were doing was adding the large chunks of text word-for-word from the external history site, which lead to the quick reversion. Let me take a look at your source to see whether it's reliable or not. Northumbrian (talk) 15:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You should write it in your own words, eg "In 1917 the Dorman Long Company built Dormanstown, a garden city to house its workers on a marshy coastal site near its steelworks." This would be acceptable. --J3Mrs (talk) 15:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see that you added any source to the article; the only external link is to Google Maps. If you mean this external history site you were adding material from, it looks like a self-published source, like a history buff's page. As you see in the preceding guideline, since the information in such sources isn't easily verifiable, it's probably not the best source to use. Northumbrian (talk) 15:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I understand what your saying. The source is reliable because I live and spent most my life in Dormanstown. This source is the best it's going to get, apart from the testimonies from local residents. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MH1987 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure the article is accurate. I live in Dormanstown, and have known Dormo all my life have spent most of my time in west/centra; Redcar and Dormo. There is mention of new shopping outlets in Dormo. Where? There is Ennis Square, Farndale Square, and a few shops on Staithes Road. They've all been there as long as I've known. As far as I'm aware, Dormo has actually lost more shopping outlets than its gained in recent years. The 'armoured' office license that used to sit on the junction between South Avenue and Armitage Road has long gone for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.93.172.4 (talk) 20:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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