Talk:Dorset Naga pepper

Capitalization
I believe that naga morich is a common name for a pepper and should not be capitalized, but Naga Dorset is a proper noun. Tina Brooks 02:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Too hot to consume directly
I have a problem with the line that the pepper isn't consumed directly. This was a quote by one Bangladeshi; It should be attributed directly. I am unsure where the editor got it to include it here. Lot's of people (read millions of Bangladeshis) actually eat this pepper.Tina Brooks 02:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point; I've changed the wording to reflect that only some people feel that way.--Bovineone 18:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Redirect directions
Why does Dorset Naga redirect to Naga Dorset pepper and not vice-versa? The developers of this cultivar refer to it as the Dorset Naga. Cyberinsekt 11:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The article just happens to have been created initially with the fully qualified name. I think having the article name include the word "pepper" helps greatly, since it immediately gives the user some background context for what would otherwise be a non-obvious name. Search engines, such as Google, use the page title as the canonical name and having a self-descriptive name makes it easy to browse among a list of many results. -- Bovineone 03:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

images hopefully forthcoming
I grow Scotch Bonnets, Red Savinas (providing the latter image), and have just requested a catalogue for the Dorset Naga company's seeds. Hopefully I can get an image up here by the end of the summer. ... aa:talk 06:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

very hot pepper
How can a pepper be so freeakign hot? i'd never want to eat one of those! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.10.130.84 (talk • contribs).

I'm eating some right now
Ha ha dudes, I'm eating some chilli which I made up with a batch of these fresh dorset naga which was sent to me from Peppers by Post. It's not too bad once cooked, but when raw, it turned my mouth numb. That wasn't so bad, as the parts of my mouth which weren't numb were exruciatingly hot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.9.50.32 (talk • contribs).

Dorset Naga vs. Naga Dorset
I have been in touch with Joy Michaud, co-developer of the cultivar, about this, and she says:

''I have no idea why they call it Naga Dorset. The original source material is Naga Morich, so maybe they have followed that name structure, but the name we have given our specific line, which is the one that was tested for heat level, is definitely 'Dorset Naga'. Could you correct that? It would be good to get it correct.''

As well as correcting this in the text, it would be good to fix the title as well. So, in line with what Bovineone says above about fully qualified names, the article should be Dorset Naga Pepper. I have no idea how to make this change while keeping history and links etc. So please could somebody with the requisite skills do it. Mwp 08:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've moved the page to Dorset Naga pepper and kept the revision history and redirects. -- Bovineone 03:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

"Dorset Naga" a marketing ploy, Merge with Naga Jolokia
I'm concerned that this so-called cultivar of Naga Morish aka Naga Jolokia (or bhut jolokia) is not a cultivar but simply Naga Jolokia by another name. If you look at the description of the process used to "develop" this alleged cultivar (at ) you'll see what I mean. They chose some better looking plants, called them by a new name and started flogging them on the next generation. I suggest this page be deleted or merged with Naga Jolokia, and the entry on the Scoville Scale page be removed. Skopp  ( Talk )  06:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I can also find no reference to this cultivar on the International Society for Horticultural Science database or in International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants. Correct me if I am wrong. The people claiming Dorset Naga as a cultivar write "We have applied for Plant Variety Protection for Dorset Naga." meaning it is not a recognised entity yet and it is not encyclopaedic to have it here. Skopp   ( Talk )  06:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I will check what is happening about the PVP. (BTW, do you have an opinion about the high SHU figure the BBC Gardeners World program have published?) Mwp 22:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I went to the website of the institution that supposedly reported the figure to the BBC, but found no reference to the test there. AFAIK it was not published in any journal either, so it is anecdotal really, but could be reported on the Naga Jolokia page for interest, under a subheading of Dorset Naga. Skopp   ( Talk )  00:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)