Talk:Double-dotted note

I'm pretty sure I've seen full 7/4 bars using double dots in Ravel, Holst and Britten scores, but can't put my fingers on them right now. It always looks a little odd, even artificial. An example might be nice but (a) I don't have music editing software (b) all three are probably copyright. David Brooks 19:38, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I checked a couple of scores I happen to have at home. In the Dies Irae from War Requiem, Britten uses a double-dotted wholenote throughout. OTOH, in the maidens' dance from Daphnis, Ravel uses either a dotted half tied to a full note, or just a plain old full note (leaving the player to conclude that he plays for the entire bar) - this may be by analogy with the convention of using the full note rest for an entire bar. I can't find another example - I guess I don't have enough contemporary scores. I don't know what conclusion I'm trying to draw from this (especially as nobody is arguing with me :-) ) David Brooks 04:26, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * I'm not arguing, but I am listening!


 * Perhaps works are Holst are old enough to be out of copyright? If you could name a spot I could hunt down the score in the library and produce an illustration. (Is "Mars" from The Planets a case?  I can't really remember how it goes...).  Cheers, Opus33 17:52, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * I was thinking of Perfect Fool. I forget the copyright rules in England, but remember Payne was eventually asked to complete Elgar 3 because the sketches would soon become public domain. E and H both died in 1934, so I'm guessing 70 years. Ravel died in 1937. I only make a point of it because the notation always seems a little odd somehow. David Brooks 18:21, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)