Talk:Doug Lamborn/Archive 1

"Accomplishments"
The bulk of this article is lifted verbatim from the issues section of Doug Lamborn's campaign website. For this alone it should be cut. But even if it weren't directly from his page, it reads like it was: terms like "traditional family values" and "pro-family", as well as statements like "Apart from a move away from entitlement, the best way to control health care costs is to introduce free market reforms", are clearly non-neutral. Finally, even if these two objections were overlooked: to judge by the status of other Congressional Wikipedia pages, it is neither neutral nor encyclopedic to have a list of all the political positions of a single-term Congressman. Nedlum (talk) 14:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Again: a list of everything Doug Lamborn has acomplished in his legistlative career doesn't seem encyclopadic, especially compared to the pages describing other Congressmen.Nedlum (talk) 06:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Cautiondoor: First of all, the information you keep reverting is a list of unformatted, indiscriminate bills, not an encyclopediac format. Secondly, the text comes from the campaign site; to repost it here is clear copyright violation. Thirdly, the terms ("Pro-Family", "abortionists") and other parts ("because, among other things, instead of just helping children in poverty it expands to families making up to $80,000 per year, young adults up to 25 years of age, and illegal immigrants") are loaded terms. And, finally: other Congressmen have, at best, lists of important legistlation they've cosponsored. Here, we have every political action Lamborn has ever taken. It just doesn't fit. Nedlum (talk) 05:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nedlum Ok, well then could you help me edit that data so it is in a format that you aprove of? I still feel his legislative history needs to be a part of his wiki.  Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cautiondoor (talk • contribs) 18:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

"Man of Honor"?
I removed a statement at the end of the article that stated that it was "widely reported that Lamborn has referred to Barack Obama as a man of honor," because this was not contained in any of the sources that were cited, and I can't find anything about it on the Internet. It seemed like a biased attempt to salvage his reputation from the "tar baby" scandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.236.34.53 (talk) 20:45, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

During his apology Lamborn referred to Obama as a "man of character" Denver Post Even so, it's a clearcut case of suckupery in order to get out of a jam.Chasflemming (talk) 13:36, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Missing 'Voice mail controversy' section?
The user AWNTC08 removed the Voice Mail Controversy section without any apparent discussion on 20-Jun-2008. Why? It was newsworthy on a national level and relevant to the entry and has existed since at least Nov-2007. --ReedEs (talk) 05:22, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

"Tar Baby" remark
Given that this made national headlines, I've included this in the article since it seems noteworthy.Shabeki (talk) 11:16, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why was it deleted? If someone is going to revert what I do, at least have the decency to explain yourself.Shabeki (talk) 04:09, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't delete it, only the subsection title. Look under the tenure subsection of the U.S. House of Representatives. It's there dude.--Jerzeykydd (talk) 05:13, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

This is the first time I've ever provided feedback to a Wikipedia article, so please feel free to guide me in etiquette, formatting, etc. I must address the issue of Tar Baby. The historical origins of the term are quite clear, easily accessible (including Wikipedia) and have no racial connotations at all. Modern attempts to relate race to this legend/literary character are born of ignorance and, I believe, a desire to score political points in non-racial controversies. I would not eliminate the reference to the event. It did happen. There was controversy. However, I believe clarity should be brought to the discussion. The word "slur" should not have a place in the discussion unless in a quote from one of the original participants in this particular controversy. Finally, we should include a link to the current Wikipedia article on Tar Baby. There is no need to promulgate cultural ignorance in our discussions. Chasflemming (talk) 12:37, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Role in shut down
Doug Lamborn also seems to be in the smaller group of 30-40 hardliners that was reported to be responsible for the 2013 shutdown. I was not able to find any lists of this frequently mentioned group, so I only added what I could prove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.2.223.154 (talk) 15:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Espionage Act OR
The editor who pasted in the Espionage Act OR should consider the immunities granted by Speech or Debate Clause as tested in similar cases. Hcobb (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

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