Talk:Doukhobors/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 19:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I'm opening a Good Article Nomination review. Hoping to complete the review over the next couple of days. I'll be using the template below. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 19:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Status query
Ganesha811, DoggieTimesTwo, where does this review stand? As far as I can tell, DoggieTimesTwo hasn't made any edits to the article based on this review—indeed, they've only made eight edits anywhere on Wikipedia since the review was opened—and Ganesha811 doesn't appear to have completed significant portions of the review. If DoggieTimesTwo isn't going to respond to the issues raised in the review thus far, then it should be closed even if it isn't complete, since there's no point to putting in the remaining work if it won't be addressed. If they are, then they need to do so soon, in which case Ganesha811 would need to proceed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I am planning to start edits based on the suggestions soon. DoggieTimesTwo (talk) 04:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ,, apologies for the slow pace of work on this review. Honestly, it just slipped my mind during a very busy month at work. I'll restart work and complete my initial review this weekend. Ganesha811 (talk) 16:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I have contacted about the attribution and description issue on their Commons talk page. In addition, I am comfortable with fixing prose issues and reference problems, but it would be appreciated to receive some guidance on WP:MOS issues. DoggieTimesTwo 03:46, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Just now, I have added the template onto questioned citations (excluding page number errors). DoggieTimesTwo 03:51, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * In a new edit, I have removed the last sentence in the summary and citation 6, and replaced it with a new sentence that has similar general meaning. DoggieTimesTwo 04:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Update on review
I have made specific comments above, but on references, number of citations needed, original research, and prose, this article needs substantial work to bring it up to GA status. Please let me know if you think you will have the time to dedicate to do this. References especially needs a lot of work. Remember that a good encyclopedia article is not an indiscriminate collection of information, but a structured and edited guide to the subject that is clear to the reader. Including every link and piece of information findable about the Doukhobors is *not* the purpose of this page. In general, irrelevant content removal and cleanup is the key to getting this article to GA status. Ganesha811 (talk) 15:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I will be dedicating as much time as I can to bring this article up to Good Article status, focusing on the citations and cleaning up the page. DoggieTimesTwo 04:59, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * In the meantime, shouldn't this article review be placed on Hold until those changes are made? This has been ongoing for quite some time already.Jenhawk777 (talk) 05:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ,, I will give a little while for improvements to be made. If in two weeks, the article is not clearly on the path to becoming a GA, the review will be put on hold or failed. This has been a slow process from both me and the nominator, and I'm mostly ok with that, but I agree we should come to a decision sooner rather than later. Ganesha811 (talk) 15:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That seems reasonable and positive at the same time. Good luck to both of you, I wish you and the article well. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , please let me know if you will have time to continue working on this article. We have a week or so left before my deadline to make a final decision re: GA status. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 14:57, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I will be devoting most of my time this week to improving the article, and much of my work will be done today. Thanks for your hard work reviewing this article! DoggieTimesTwo 19:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , just a reminder, I'll be looking over this again on Sunday night to assess it for GA status. Thanks! Ganesha811 (talk) 15:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi! Looking at the article once more, it is significantly improved. However, I do not believe it reaches GA status. There are still too many uncited claims throughout the article, and a number of cited sources are not reliable in my view. There are other issues as well - on prose, on original research, and on focus. Unfortunately, this article does not pass right now. That doesn't mean you should stop working on it, though! Keep on improving the article. I hope to see it re-nominated and passing GA status sometime in the future. Thank you for your hard work on this article. Ganesha811 (talk) 18:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)