Talk:Doves as symbols

New Page
Nice new page! I just tidied up a little bit of the formatting and added a new catagory! LookingYourBest 14:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Royal Air Force
Hello again! I've just edited the RAF section of the page as it had a couple of inaccuracies in it. The crest is only that of one wing within the Air Force, the symbol of communications within the RAF is actually a clenched fist with 6 'sparks' eminating from it. Also the RAF's symbol is actually an Osprey, thus I didn't think the memorial photo had much to do with the article on a whole! Keep up the good work! LookingYourBest 11:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't want to get into a revert war about this Barbara, but the memorial image is in no way relevant to the article. The description of the memorial clearly states that it is an eagle on a globe and the picture doesn't have a dove anywhere in it. The RAF's symbol is that of an osprey. That said, if you can provide another explaination of why it should be in the article, please let me know! Cheers!
 * LookingYourBest 14:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Hachiman
Doves are the symbolic animal of Hachiman, the Shinto god of war. I'm afraid I don't know much more about him than that (I wonder whether he has influence from the Hindu Hanuman or whether it's just a similarity in names and roles, but that's OT here) -- so I'm not sure whether it would be worth it to just add a single line like that. ExOttoyuhr (talk) 04:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Not to worry, it's got one now! --LookingYourBest (talk) 18:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Jewish and Christian symbolism
I have made a couple of deletions under this heading. It is a common misconception that the dove and olive branch in the story of Noah represent peace, but neither the dove nor the olive branch are mentioned anywhere in either the Hebrew Bible or the New Testament in connection with peace. The symbolism of the dove in the Hebrew Bible (e.g. Psalms, but elsewhere too) is varied and complex. In Matthew's Gospel the dove is a simile of the Holy Spirit that descended on Jesus during his baptism. The olive branch as a peace symbol is pagan, associated with the goddess Eirene or Pax. This symbol was combined with the dove in early Christian art in the Roman Catacombs alongside explicit references to peace (ειρήνή or pace). This is discussed in more detail, with references, under Peace symbols I do wish people would do a bit of research before writing Wikipedia articles from the first thing that comes into their heads! Marshall46 (talk) 18:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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