Talk:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom/Archive 1

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

audio book
please add a link to the audio book!--Sonjaaa (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Creative Commons
The article states that the book is now under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike as of 2004, but the official website still links to Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 1.0. Can someone verify which is more correct?
 * If you look at the actual txt/html/pdf files you'll see it's Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike now. --Kjoonlee 19:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Future history?
In what sense is this book a future history? To quote the article:"A set of stories which share a backdrop but are not really concerned with the sequence of history in their universe are rarely considered future histories. For example, neither Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga nor George R. R. Martin's 1970s short stories which share a backdrop are generally considered future histories. Standalone stories which trace an arc of history are rarely considered future histories. For example, Walter M. Miller Jr.'s A Canticle for Leibowitz is not generally considered a future history."
 * –  7 4   19:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

2600 Magazine
Although I did once write an article for 2600, Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom never appeared in the magazine. This detail is entirely spurious.

Doctorow (talk) 19:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, it's been a couple weeks -- I've deleted it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Down_and_Out_in_the_Magic_Kingdom&diff=287798567&oldid=285746161

Doctorow (talk) 07:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Plot summary
Wow, leave out a ton of details, tell the reader the end ruining the story, and copy paste the last few lines. That's what I like to see out of Wikipedia! --TIB (talk) 05:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I was just about to go hunt down any WP Guidelines for plot summaries because of this. I've seen it many times before, developing in me a conscious avoidance of Wikipedia entries for specific media that could be spoiled (television shows, films, books). Sometimes, such as here, I'll hop on to check it out after I've read/watched it. It's an interesting question as to what people want Wikipedia to be in this regard. Regardless, in this case, beyond simply ruining the ending, I don't understand how quoting the last several lines verbatim is even useful in the book's encyclopedia entry. —Rhododendrites (talk) 04:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well that was fast. Spoiler and Content disclaimer are pretty clear :)  Still, I think that any meaning offered by the word-for-word quote of the last several sentences could better be described some other way.  I'll try to look at it again tomorrow if I have time, having just read the book. —Rhododendrites (talk) 04:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Also the spoiler is inaccurate :) Julius doesn't fall in love with his murderess, he specifically says that there's no romance, only something like brother/sister love. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.99.115.70 (talk) 09:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

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Merge from Whuffie
I am afraid Whuffie is a non-notable concept on its own, and I suggest it is merged here. Thoughts? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:49, 2 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Don't merge. I find it useful to bring up whuffie's as an example of a post-scarcity currency; having an explicit article on it is useful. (Having a WP article on "post-scarcity currency" would also be useful, but I don't think one exists). 67.198.37.16 (talk) 17:23, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * This article on metamoderna.org deals with post-scarcity currency. 67.198.37.16 (talk) 17:46, 19 October 2018 (UTC)