Talk:Downstate New York

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Popular? I've never heard the term downstate before seeing this article. Is it a thing mainly from people upstate?


 * Yes, its pretty ubiquitous. Oaxaca dan 23:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Not ubiquitous. Maybe that's an Upstate thing, but no one from the Tri-State area uses that terminology. No signs point to "downstate", but they do point to "Upstate".208.44.170.115 (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Original research
I feel that much of this article appears to be original research. Additionally, this image provides information to readers, but is unsourced and should probably be considered original research as well. --JBC3 (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


 * There are no sources for "Downstate". It should be renamed to "Tri-State Area". See below.208.44.170.115 (talk) 13:26, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

About half of Suffolk county on Long Island is semi-rural and closer to Rhode Island
I think that map is inaccurate to some degree. The eastern half of long island is actually not urban at all. It's kindof in the middle of nowhere, similar attitude in culture to smaller places upstate. Also, ALL of Rockland County should be considered part of the NYC metro area because in some ways, it's more urbanized than suffolk (actually parts of rockland are closer to nyc than parts of westchester even. I see there is a little strip of rockland that was not included, which makes absolutely no sense since all of suffolk is included. So yes, it's a great picture, but semi-inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.44.57.48 (talk) 07:34, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I love the "parts of Rockland are closer to NYC than parts of Westchester" part. It's a facetious statement, though, as Westchester County itself is directly next to NYC, while Rockland shares no border with NYC.208.44.170.115 (talk) 12:08, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Tri-State Area, not "Downstate"
While there are terms for travel such as up-state or down-state, only one is used as an appellation for an area in NYS. "Upstate" refers to the "Capital Region" (and its surrounding area) as well as "The North Country", the "Finger Lakes", and everything heading towards "Western New York" (the Buffalo through Rochester part of NYS). This can easily be seen in advertisements, such as "Upstate Ford Dealers", so on and so forth. People living in the region will readily admit to being from "Upstate".

However, you will be hard-pressed to ever hear anyone from the Tri-State area of NY (or "the Tri-State" as it's called) to even utter the word "downstate". I feel that this and all affiliated pages should be re-titled/fixed to include the correct name, otherwise it should be deleted as original work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.44.170.115 (talk) 13:22, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

"New York (downstate)" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect New York (downstate). The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 27 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. feminist (+) 10:42, 27 October 2021 (UTC)