Talk:Downstep

References Needed
I think references would be a good thing to add. &mdash; mark &#9998; 07:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

+1... I need these references, there's some interesting stuff in that article.

I think the current Reference to Crystal is not well established. I mean what is being referenced? Usually articles have inline citations and "references" and a "further reading section". Some references if someone wants to integrate them into the article:

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 * Daly, John P. and Larry M. Hyman. 2007. On the Representation of Tone in Peñoles Mixtec. International Journal of American Linguistics 73.2: 165-207.
 * Snider, Keith L. 1999. Tonal 'upstep' in Engenni. Journal of West African Languages 27.1: 3-15.
 * Snider, Keith L. 1990. Tonal Upstep in Krachi: Evidence for a Register Tier. Language 66.3: 453-74.

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 * Snider, Keith L. 1998. Phonetic Realisation of Downstep in Bimoba. Phonology 15.1: 77-101.
 * Connell, Bruce. 2011. Downstep. In van Oostendorp, Marc (ed.), The Blackwell companion to phonology, 4 vols, vol. 4, 824-47. Chichester; Malden: Wiley-Blackwell.
 * Snider, Keith L. 1999. Tonal 'upstep' in Engenni. Journal of West African Languages 27.1: 3-15.
 * Chumbow, Beban Sammy and Ayu'nwi N. Neba. 2011. Tone raising and tone lowering in Bafut. Journal of African Languages & Linguistics 32.1: 43-64.
 * Snider Keith, L. 2007. Automatic and nonautomatic downstep in Chumburung: An instrumental comparison. Journal of West African Languages 34.1: 105-14.
 * Pike, Eunice V. and Priscilla C. Small. 1974. Downstepping terrace tone in Coatzospan Mixtec. In Brend, Ruth M. (ed.), Advances in tagmemics (North-Holland Linguistic Series 9), 105-34. Amsterdam: North-Holland.
 * Lee, Seunghun Julio. 2009. H Tone, Depressors and Downstep in Tsonga. In Matondo, Masangu, Fiona Mc Laughlin & Eric Potsdam (eds.), Selected Proceedings of the 38th Annual Conference on African Linguistics: Linguistic Theory and African Language Documentation, 26-37. Somerville, MA, USA: Cascadilla Proceedings Project.
 * Hyman, Larry M. 1985. Word Domains and Downstep in Bamileke-Dschang. Phonology Yearbook 2: 47-83.
 * Laniran, Yetunde O. and G. N. Clements. 2003. Downstep and high raising: interacting factors in Yoruba tone production. Journal of Phonetics 31.2: 203-50.
 * Stewart, J.M. 1993. ‘Dschang and Ebrie as Akan-type total downstep languages’, The Phonology of Tone – the representation of tonal register, H. van der Hulst & K. Snider (eds.),. Berlin: Mouton de Gruyter, pp. 185– 244.
 * Connell, Bruce. 2001. Downdrift, Downstep, and Declination. In the Proceedings of the Typology of African Prosodic Systems Workshop. http://www.spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de/TAPS/Connell.pdf
 * Lim, Jonathan Keh Sheng. 2007. Register Phenomena In Shanghai. M.A. dissertation, Trinity Western University.
 * Paster, Mary and Yuni Kim. 2011. Downstep in Tiriki. Linguistic Discovery 9.1: 71-104.

Accent


 * Elordieta, Gorka and José Ignacio Hualde. 2003. Tonal and Durational Correlates of Accent in Contexts of Downstep in Lekeitio Basque. Journal of the International Phonetic Association 33.2: 195-209.

Hugh Paterson III (talk) 04:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Confusion of phenomena
The page starts out well, but then confuses downstep with accent, the case in Japanese. FOr more on downstep, cf. the chapter on African tone systems in Moira Yip's excellent book Tone (Cambridge). Japanese accent is a shift from H to L, downstep is a lowering of the F0 range used to express all of the tones.
 * There may not be any difference. Some linguists analyze Japanese pitch accent as downstep. Of course, the results aren't the same as in Bambara, for there you have downstep in an already tonal system, whereas Japanese is not a tonal language. (At least not in this analysis.) But feel free to add from Yip (who unfortunately paid scant attention to African languages in that volume). kwami 07:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with the first writer above. I have removed the mention of Japanese in the first paragraph of the article, as I think it confuses the issue. But I have left the section on Japanese later, so that readers can make up their own mind if it is similar. Kanjuzi (talk) 08:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


 * * Yip, Moira. 2002. Tone. Cambridge; New York: Cambridge University Press. Hugh Paterson III (talk) 04:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Phonemic - phonetic
I have deleted the expressions 'phonemic downstep' and 'phonetic downstep' as they had no citations and seemed to confuse the issue. I could not find any clear definition of the distinction on the Internet. But if such a definition can be found, do please feel free to add it again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanjuzi (talk • contribs) 10:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

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