Talk:Downtown Triangle (Jerusalem)

Merge proposal

 * Oppose. Zion Square is a fully sourced GA. It makes no sense to merge it to here. Yoninah (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


 * If the article is good, it does not mean that it makes no sense to merge it to here, and we must share with other colleagues because you are the one who nominated the article So we must achieve neutrality, There are many sentences in the two articles repeated in the same way (The same events, landmarks and history) what do think.--Anass (talk) 21:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * On the other hand the article isn't neutral because you only use Israeli references--Anass (talk) 21:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not following your logic. The Downtown Triangle is a whole district that includes several sub-districts. It makes no sense to expand and expand this article with all the information for the sub-districts; the article would become too lengthy and would naturally be broken off into sub-articles (see WP:SPINOFF). I've developed the Zion Square article into a GA and intend to expand the Ben Yehuda Striée (Jerusalem) article, too.
 * I have never heard the argument about using foreign-language vs. English-language sources. We have plenty of foreign subjects featured on Wikipedia for which there are no English-language sources. Moreoever, this is not at all true in the case of Zion Square, which includes sources like The Baltimore Sun, The Globe and Mail, The New Yorker, and The New York Times, as well as internationally-known papers like The Jerusalem Post and Haaretz. Yoninah (talk) 09:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a repeat, for exemple what have said about Hamashbir Lazarchan In both articles he is the same and in the same way as in the history section, if you want examples I will give it to you--Anass (talk) 10:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Since Zion Square is part of the Downtown Triangle, obviously landmarks that are included in the former will be listed in the latter. See WP:SPINOFF. Yoninah (talk) 14:24, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have just noticed the transfer of the Israeli narrative only about this region. As long as the area was the main commercial district of the Old City, did not mention any information about this pre-occupation period? Also, the so-called "terrorist" and "suicide" bombings are the characterization of the Zionist media and those who blame it, not our characterization, and what they call terrorism, which we call legitimate defense. Our encyclopedia is not a platform for such talk, which suggests the innocence of the Israelis.


 * The region is under occupation, which requires "two points of view, not just one." For example, the subject of "buying land in Palestine in general and in Jerusalem in particular" is a controversial issue that is not 100% correct and therefore needs to be mentioned as "Jewish confirmation of its occurrence" and at the same time " The reader is left to search for himself for more information. I hope the picture is clear. thank you.--Anass (talk) 11:32, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it's clear that you are peddling the "occupation" narrative. The Downtown Triangle is located in Western Jerusalem, which has never been considered "occupied territory". Yoninah (talk) 14:24, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You did not mention anything about the history of the region before the British mandate means how it was in the Ottoman Empire and others and there is no mention of the Palestinians and Their role in the place, was remembered only by their terrorist attacks, as if the Israelis had done nothing--Anass (talk) 14:38, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you familiar with the history of Western Jerusalem? The area that is now the Downtown Triangle, like other large swaths of land in Jerusalem, was owned by the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem. This is stated in the article. If you can trace it to a Palestinian owner before the Church acquired it, please add a reference. Yoninah (talk) 16:35, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Merging
Hi everone, In fact, I think that it is necessary to merge the two articles (this and Zion Square) and my colleagues in the Arabic Wikipedia suggested that because, although they are separate areas, but the articles have the same history and the same landmarks, I think that the article Zion Square should be placed as a section in Downtown Triangle (Jerusalem), what do you think about that--Anass (talk) 16:59, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:SPINOFF. Adding another article to this one would only bloat the page. Look forward to similar expansion of Ben Yehuda Street (Jerusalem), which is also part of the Downtown Triangle. Yoninah (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Jerusalem map by neighbourhoods needed
See discussion at Talk:Jerusalem. Arminden (talk) 18:51, 16 January 2022 (UTC)