Talk:Dr Pepper/Archive 2

Diet Dr Pepper date
one of the beginning sentences makes it seem as if Diet Dr Pepper wasn't creatred until the 2000's "Variants include a non-high fructose corn syrup version, Diet Dr Pepper, as well as a line of versions with additional flavors, first introduced in the 2000s." 173.8.81.41 (talk) 15:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Nice catch, but when was it introduced? Hard to know how to clarify it if we don't have the real data. - Denimadept (talk) 17:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know when it was introduced, but I remember seeing it in our house towards the end of the glass bottle era. That was the late 70's/early 80's.Wyldstaar (talk) 23:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe Dr. Pepper was introduced 1885 A.D. -xwingsx-  ( talk ) 03:44, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Dr Pepper Ten
I'm in Austin and just bought a bottle of the new Dr Pepper Ten. Here's a link to info on the test marketing which is occurring in Denver, Colorado Springs, Des Moines, Kansas City, San Antonio and Austin. Obviously, I cannot edit this page because it's semi-protected.

http://www.ajc.com/business/dr-pepper-tests-dr-804516.html

71.21.64.109 (talk) 22:44, 19 January 2011 (UTC)MB 1/19/2011

Edit request from Jport0072, 23 February 2011
edit semi-protected

The information in the 2nd sentence following: "Dr Pepper was a frequent player in the 1990s antitrust history of the United States. As part of these activities, economists and the courts have weighed in with the opinion that Dr Pepper is a "Pepper" flavored drink and not a "Cola". In 1995, the FTC blocked a merger between The Coca-Cola Company and Dr Pepper on grounds that included concerns about a monopoly of the "Pepper" flavor category of soft drinks.[9] " is misleading. Judge Sarah T. Hughes ruled in 1963 that Dr Pepper was not a cola and that opened the door for Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola independent bottlers to acquire the franchise rights to bottle Dr Pepper in their franchise areas. By prefacing the sentence referencing the 1990s makes the reader assume the cola vs. pepper debate was later than it actually was.

PLEASE CHANGE TO: Dr Pepper was a frequent player in the 1990s antitrust history of the United States. And, in fact, years prior to these activities in the 90s, on Dec. 20, 1963, Judge Sarah T. Hughes (who less than a month earlier, on Nov. 22, 1963, had sworn in Lyndon Johnson as president after Kennedy's assassination in Dallas), in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas ruled that Dr Pepper was not a cola. This decision led the way to multifranchising, which allowed cola bottlers to own the Dr Pepper franchise for their area. In 1995, the FTC blocked a merger between The Coca-Cola Company and Dr Pepper on grounds that included concerns about a monopoly of the "Pepper" flavor category of soft drinks.[9]...

See passage below copied from Mr. Smarty Pants, The Austin Chronicle - http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Community/MrSmartyPants_view?oid=oid%3A259270 (I can also confirm since I worked for Dr Pepper for 21 years and my dad worked for Coke for 30 years)

In 1963, there was a court case in which it was ruled that Dr Pepper was not a cola. The case began because several Coca-Cola bottlers liked the progress being made by Dr Pepper, and they acquired the franchise rights to bottle Dr Pepper at their plants. The Coca-Cola company challenged their ability to do this on the grounds that it was a competing cola flavor and franchise agreements prevented bottlers from handling two cola brands. The matter was resolved on Dec. 20, 1963, in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas by Judge Sarah T. Hughes (who less than a month earlier, on Nov. 22, 1963, had sworn in Lyndon Johnson as president after Kennedy's assassination in Dallas). Judge Hughes ruled that Dr Pepper was not a cola. This decision led the way to multifranchising, which allowed cola bottlers to own the Dr Pepper franchise for their area.

For more information, contact: Dr Pepper Museum 300 S. Fifth St. Waco, TX 76701 254/757-1025 www.drpeppermuseum.com

Jport0072 (talk) 17:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Bold text
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The requested change adds in additional information not needed in the article such as how the judge was appointed and does appear moderately bias in defense of Dr. Pepper. Spitfire19 T/C 18:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, my edit does not mention how the judge was appointed. It does mention that the judge appointed LBJ as president after John F. Kennedy was assasinated. That info may not be needed but I believe adds some interesting "color" in what I believe is in the spirit of Wikipedia. And I don't believe there is any defensive bias indicated. It is an important fact in the history of Dr Pepper that Judge Hughes opened the door to franchising of Dr Pepper by Coke and Pepsi bottlers. Jport0072 (talk) 19:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE CHANGE TO: Dr Pepper was a frequent player in the 1990s antitrust history of the United States. And, in fact, years prior to these activities in the 90s, on Dec. 20, 1963, Judge Sarah T. Hughes (who less than a month earlier, on Nov. 22, 1963, had sworn in Lyndon Johnson as president after Kennedy's assassination in Dallas), in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas ruled that Dr Pepper was not a cola. This decision led the way to multifranchising, which allowed cola bottlers to own the Dr Pepper franchise for their area. In 1995, the FTC blocked a merger between The Coca-Cola Company and Dr Pepper on grounds that included concerns about a monopoly of the "Pepper" flavor category of soft drinks.[9]... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jport0072 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Actual marketing within the marketing section
editsemiprotected The marketing section contains numerous passages that read more like advertisements and positive PR for the drink than they do objective or encyclopedic recordings of information about the product. There are also parts where the article even critiques and conjectures on how the product could have been better marketed? I'm not sure when or who on wikipedia has achieved precognitive powers, or why, with such an amazing ability, they would choose to use it to psychically know how advertising campaigns could have been more successful. "Far better would have been ads in the 1960-1970's style with humour and the catchline: Dr Pepper, so misundertood!! Once you've tried it, You're hooked for good."

This passage was the most glaring thing that needs to be removed, but this entire section is suspiciously overly-detailed and includes arbitrarily statistics about only some aspects or years with no consistency. Why is this article even protected? Either way, hope someone can clean this up if they are allowed to. Khanstant (talk) 18:24, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You are more than welcome to clean up anything you think is overly advertising. Wikipedia should contain no blatant advertising C T J F 8 3  18:26, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize you couldn't edit the page. When you use the editsemiprotect template, you need specific changes, not general ones. If you like, you can create an subpage to edit it to what you feel it should be. C T J F 8 3  18:28, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Page status
Why is this page semi-protected? --Bischar (talk) 11:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Real Sugar
I don't think we need to emphasize that the sugar is real by calling it "real sugar". This is only in marketing. Other than referring to their marketing, could someone change it to say just 'sugar'? RocketLauncher2 (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed, although in some contexts if a contrast is appropriate, one could say "sugar rather than other sweeteners."Lawikitejana (talk) 14:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Pepper is a White Birch-flavored soda
Hi,

I recently tasted some white birch Foxon Park soda and realized that "White Birch" is the flavor of Dr. Pepper. I believe this should be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdleighton (talk • contribs) 17:20, 21 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Your theory is called OR.
 * You need to find a formal source who agrees with you on the record.
 * Then it can go in the article.


 * I've been drinking the stuff for over 40 years.
 * I didn't know it had a "unique flavour" until today.
 * I call it cherry cola flavour.
 * When I was a boy, I used to make my own Dr. Pepper by adding cherry liqueur to Coke.
 * Varlaam (talk) 14:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation "Doctor Pepper"
I found it noteworthy to mention that it is pronounced "Doctor Pepper". That the pronunciation apparently was not obvious had been brought to my attention by an English speaker from India. That sufficed to dismiss preemptively patently as an adverb that describes the obviousness of the pronunciation. If the English Wikipedia is only for those who have heard the advertising jingles, then I would be hard-pressed to disagree with the assertion that patently obvious is the pronunciation of Dr Pepper as "Doctor Pepper". Group29 (talk) 00:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * what do you mean? how else do you pronounce it? the only other way I can think of is "der" pepper, but anyone using that pronunciation may barely be called an English speaker, and certainly not an English reader. Tinynanorobots (talk) 06:10, 29 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It may be pronounced D R Pepper. I agree it's not that obvious because it's a drink not a person so it might not be intuitive to pronounce it "Doctor". Krystaleen (talk) 08:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Additions to the jingle
A longer version of the "I'm a pepper" jingle started:

I drink Dr Pepper and I'm proud I'm part of an original crowd But now you look around these days There seems to be a Dr Pepper craze!

I'm a pepper...etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phxgator (talk • contribs) 07:03, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Store Brands - Photos
I have a series of photos of Store brands and Dr Pepper and would like to place them here as as subheading under marketing. or I am open to other suggestions. Dadinmadison (talk) 04:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure...this article is about Dr Pepper, not store brands....we'll see if others weigh in. C T  F  8  3 !  23:20, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 August 2013
I would like to have you fixed this "Dr Pepper is not available in Ukraine, Thailand, Italy, Russia, North Korea and Serbia." I live in Russia and recently bought Dr pepper. Imported from Belgium and the USA

I think that should correct this deficiency,and write that Dr pepper is available in Russia partially.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Be a Pepper referenced in Bosom Buddies SitCom
The early 1980's sitcom, Bosom Buddies, features a comical exchange between the show's two main characters Kip, played by, Tom Hanks, and Hank, played by Peter Scolari. Henry: "you asked for this so don't expect a peptalk from me". Kip: "ah, come on, Henry, be a pepper!" Henry: "and wouldn't you like me to be a pepper too!"

The only citation I have is a review on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Bosom-Buddies-The-First-Season/product-reviews/B000LE16VM?pageNumber=3 But the only reason I found this was because I specifically remember this scene and I came to this Wikipedia page expressly to see if the Bosom Buddies reference was in here, and it is not. I could not find a youtube video-clip of the scene.

Thank you - DougVann

Dougvann (talk) 05:23, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is trivia. Reviews on Amazon and youTube videos don't make it notable. Sorry. --Stfg (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2014
"a unique" in the first sentence should be "an unique"

75.87.219.247 (talk) 03:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: "unique" begins with a consonant sound ("yoo"), and therefore uses the article "a", not "an". See here for details.  Little Mountain  5  05:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Caffeine content - a feature of Dr Pepper?
Does anyone know if Dr Pepper has the greatest caffeine content among the "big" i.e. globally marketed soft drink brands? I don't know if this is just a common misconception or if there's something more to it, but I've heard claims along that line and there are people who occasionally use it as some sort of substitute for coffee over other soft drinks which also contain a certain amount of caffeine, such as Coca Cola. From what I've been able to find on a quick Internet search, Dr Pepper does seem to have slightly more caffeine than Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola, though not by as wide a margin as I thought. So, basically, what I wanted to ask is if this is a common feature, or alternatively a common misconception, of this soft drink that's worth mentioning in the article? Abvgd (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * actually, someone already did you the favor and even added it as a link in the references. Had you looked it might have bit you....;) Ken (talk) 22:56, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * actually Mountain dew has more 65.175.134.44 (talk) 19:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Dr Pepper availability
"Dr Pepper is not available in Ukraine, Thailand, Italy, Russia, North Korea and Serbia." I'd like to tell that Dr Pepper is actually available in Russia as opposed to the text. This needs to be fixed. --89.208.107.124 (talk) 06:08, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Ye. Actually Dr Pepper is widely available in Russia. http://www.union-import.com/ru/ is official distributor of Dr Pepper and Crush brands.--EnterURname (talk) 09:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Idiomatic Error
Currently the article reads: "Miss Loren would figure prominently in Dr Pepper’s plans for some five years, not only as an entertainer but doing commercials for radio and TV and appearing in many forms of advertising." However, the idiom should be NOT ONLY (x) BUT ALSO (y) where x and y are parallel. "As an entertainer" is not parallel to "doing commercials." Recommend that the sentence be adjusted to "not only entertaining but also doing commercials..." or "not only as an entertainer but also as a ... " where the correct word escapes me, but perhaps you can come up with the right word.181.64.192.117 (talk) 20:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * That's a good point, and well stated. How about this? — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 21:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Request that the word ALSO be inserted after the word BUT, to read: "...not only as an entertainer but also as an advertisement personality..."181.64.192.117 (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Dr Pepper can be purchased in both Russia and Malaysia
Hi, I have been an expat for nearly ten years now, first having lived in Malaysia (Borneo) for 4 yrs, and in Russia for 4 yrs. In both places Dr Pepper was available....not huge quantitys but you could purchase it, mostly in import stores. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.196.177.203 (talk) 06:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes I can confirm you can buy Dr Pepper in Russia (shops and restaurants). For example there is a distributor here http://www.drpepper-russia.ru/ 2klodu67 (talk) 23:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Very outdated in international section
Sadly the article is protected and can't be edited by people form different countries. It still states that Pepsico has the right to Dr.Pepper in Poland for instance. This was an experiment which ended some years ago - with the product not really widely available. Now it's mada and distributed by "Orangina  Schwepps Poland", and is widely available also in the diet and cherry version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.205.216.191 (talk) 23:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Sugar % Daily value - Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2015
The % Daily value for the sugar in the nutrition facts panel is not mentioned : 80%

Foovy (talk) 14:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: there is no % daily value set by the FDA Cannolis (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)