Talk:Dragon Ball Z/Archive 1

Should this only detail the actual series?
Certain Dragon Ball Z movies happen in the Dragon Ball Z universe. Mostly I am referring to the character list, because at the moment I have (perhaps wrongly) added a few characters which only feature in the movies.. Should they not be listed here? I do plan to add a link to the movies. Perhaps the characters can be offloaded to those pages after they are done? Bah! Opinions please. A. Smith 13:32 6 Jul 2003 (UTC) In my opinion, characters from the movies should only be listed on a new page for the movies. They do not take part in the manga and are not, strictly speaking, creations of Toriyama Akira - therefore IMHO they're not really DBZ characters. Yeah, offload the non-canon movie characters to some new page. Rissa of the saiya-jin 05:35, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Only the two TV character specials (Trunks & Bardock) are in the canon of the series officially. Some fans consider Dead Zone (DBZ Movie 1) to be in canon because it's necessary backstory to the Garlick Jr. Saga-- but there are still some minor logical gaps. (Most of the other movies have major logical gaps-- like characters together when one of them should be dead, etc.) To be honest, I have no idea what movie you are talking about-- there are only 13 DBZ movies plus the two specials and that doesn't sound like any of them. JRP 17:18, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)


 * This does bear an edit to the main article explaining the difference between the series and the movies. Also, there is a "14th" movie (actually released in two parts) which is even less canon and, amazingly, released by Bandai originally as a very bad video game: "Side Story: The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans". has the info. There are currently no plans to release that "movie" in the US (the game didn't make it here either), but who knows how desperate Funimation will get once they run out of Dragon Ball next year. (They've already run out of new episodes for TV.) JRP 05:18, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yes, there should be at least a reference to the discontinuity of the movies in relation to the series. Bihal well, we should try to put it in a sub category for those who don't read the manga and watch the anime only, i don't know how to format so i can't do it srry! Jedi fox

Revert?
Does anything think the latest slash edit by 4.178.51.92 should be reverted? Bihal 00:37, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Merge
can someone who knows about DBZ incorporate Junemba wherever it should go? rhyax 07:46, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * I believe he's listed under Dragon Ball Z movies


 * there is also an article named Janemba which refers to the same character from the movie, I'd suggest a merge and then a redirect.BCKILLa 20:32, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Spelling of Frieza
Throughout the various articles relating to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, the name is spelt as either Frieza or Freeza. Can we agree on a standard? --210.246.30.39 07:58, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * The answer to these types of questions is often "no". Google test:
 * Freeza - 52,700
 * Frieza - 148,000
 * We should probably be using Frieza everywhere. JRP 12:56, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It seems like the American spelling for his name is "Frieza", which really sucks in my opinion.--Kaonashi 16:48, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Whether it sucks or not isn't the question. :) It's the most common form of the name, in English. JRP

What about "Freezer", what his name was supposed to mean? It was wrote as "Furiiza" in the manga, the same as romanized "freezer".

Policy is to use the american spelling. —Philip N.✉ 22:28, 13 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Last time I checked it was ENGLISH wikipedia not AMERICAN. -User:Future Trunks

What about all the other names like Tenshinhan, Kuririn, and Son Goku.

Just thought I'd mention the titles to episodes on the TV series spelled it as "Freeza". :) -- Chris Done

I personally think we should go with Frieza because its the most commonly known verse and its most recognizable. If Frieza were translated to the jap versions of Freeza and Freezer or even Fureeza-Sama, then every other name would have to be translated as well. There's no point in making it Freeza on wikipedia. We should go by the English verse. - Zarbon

Theme Song Question
I've heard clips of English versions of "Cha-La Head-Cha-La" and "We Gotta Power". Where exactly were they used?


 * If I remember right, they were never actually used in the series but merely created for CD release in the phillipines(spelled the wrong I bet). Not entirely sure though.

They are the original opening and closing themes of the show but were replaced by "Rock the Dragon" in the first season of the US-version and by various instrumentals in other seasons.


 * There from the CD "Mixture" that was released in Japan. There are three song from DBZ on it that are sung in english by the original singer "Kageyama Hironobu". The song are: CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA, WE GOTTA POWER, & Boku-tachi wa Tenshi Datta, that's both OPs and the 2nd ED.

Particular Paragraph
"The main character of Dragonball Z, Goku, is also related to the DC Comic hero, Superman, by many. Their history of their home planet being destroyed and them being sent to a far away planet as the last of their kind, their similarities in abilities and powers, and much more. But even though their similarity is usually not argued apon, many do argue of who is more powerful between the two. It has even been talked about in Wizard issue #133 in which they state that Goku would beat the original Pre-Crisis Superman(said to be the most powerful Superman other than Superman Prime) after going only to Super Saiyan 1 level. However there were several inaccuracies in this artical, which makes it quite clear the Wizard team aren't very informed about Dragonball. These include the belief that Goku could survive unaided in space.(Which is not true.)"

This particular paragraph seems of a low quality, and possibly a low relevence. I think it needs to be one sentence, like "Goku is often compared to the DC Comic hero Superman, since they share similar backgrounds, abilities and status." Bihal 02:46, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I took a pass at cleaning that section up, but it still needs some work. JRP 13:41, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

In regards to that particular paragraph, I think it's a vast improvement. Bihal 22:04, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Contradiction?

 * "For example, during the Freeza Saga there is a flashback showing that Vegeta, Radditz and Nappa were already aware that Freeza destroyed their home planet long before the events in DBZ took place even though the series showed that Vegeta was not aware until Dodoria told him on Planet Namek."

Are you SURE the flashback 'shows they were aware of it' ? The only flashbacks I remember show them viewing the planet's destruction, but not actually seeing Freezer do it.

And I on my hand think the latter comment is incorrect. The television show shows Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz, after being humiliated by Furiza, discussing the possibility of Furiza being responsible for the destruction. Vegeta claims he already knew a long time and says he doesn't mind, the only thing that matters to him is beating Furiza and becoming the most powerful one. When Dodoria tells Vegeta on Namek, Vegeta laughs at him in the show, and says he already knew.Evilbu 20:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


 * It's filler. In the manga, Vegeta doesn't learn until Dodoria told him. Beowulph 00:26, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Haven't read the Furiza saga in the manga so I stand corrected. And does Toriyama also make mistakes about it? Evilbu 00:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


 * There are a few mistakes, but not on this particular subject, so far as I'm aware. Beowulph 15:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Latest edits
Umm there are about 5 edits (by 70.186.33.245) that seem to be changing random bits of info, breaking and removing wiki links and hasn't added any sources. I am not familiar enough with the series to tell if these additions are true facts or not (otherwise I would just revert). I would check it out. The edit after him is not exactl crutial either, so I wouldn't worry about reverting it (picks one spelling of a name over another) -- Mr . Dude †@&pound;К ║  Çøת†яĭβü†ĬŎИ 03:00, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Uncut Version section
The section Uncut Version looks like nothing but a poorly-written list of every single removed edit the writer saw. Granted, I couldn’t do much better, but could someone clean that up and make it more of a paragraph and less of a list? —Frungi 06:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


 * I cleaned up the section, reordered it and rewrote some parts. I also deleted or shortened some things. Hope I didn't overdo it, as this was my first bigger clean up. - Genesis 18:05, 1 December 2005 (UTC)


 * It looks very good. Don't worry yourself!—Brian

What happened to the canon list?-Joe

Canon
What happen to the part on canon?

Uncut DVDS
Muchi, I spent alot of time researching all the DVDs and creating the list because I orignally ventured to wikipedia to discover no information about it. For you to remove all that work and claim its not needed is not very smart. Just because you dont care about the DVDs, others might. Im putting it back in. If you really dont feel it belongs here, create a new section, place the info in there, and link to it from here. Dont go erase my hours of work.

Are The DVDs Right?
I just wanted to know whether or not the list of uncut DVDs in the article is correct. The numbers of the episodes are sort of mixed up, and it is missing 277-291. Have FUNimation released the last 14 episodes uncut? And The Namek Saga of the larger Frieza Saga lasts until episode 67, not 53 doesn't it? I have not edited it because am afraid I may make a mistake as I do not know much about the DBZ DVDs, but this section caught my eye. Thanks. 139.168.135.166 02:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you're getting confused with what version you mean. The uncut DVDs were the original episodes as they screened in Japan, and there were only 277 of those. The rest were movies and the two TV specials. The American version was longer (at 291 episodes, and the movies and TV specials) which are the edited versions + what is known as 'filler' or extra content to make up the rest of what was not covered in the Japanese version which was closer to the original manga itself. Last year, Cartoon Network screened the uncut original episodes on their channel which have the names listed under the Vegeta Saga etc. on Wikipedia.


 * Here's the way I describe it:

From 1989- 1996 in Japan on Fuji TV (or if they changed TV stations etc.) they screened all 291 episodes, plus the TV specials and movies. In America, from 1996-2003, they screened it in different timeslots, some episodes cut out, and the movies screened, as did the TV specials. On Cartoon Network now, they started screening the original first episodes (uncut) with different titles, etc. The DVD releases are the 277 episodes released/ to be released so far. They may release the other uncut later episodes soon. In Japan, they divided the series up into 4 sagas which screened as shown in the article (when), and the episodes were dived into sub-sagas in larger sagas in the USA. It may differ/ vary in other countries. That's the way I understand it. If you can correct me in anyway or explain something that I'm wrong about (most probably I am), can you please tell me so because I don't want to be wrong (although its sorta hard not to be). Thanks.

I edited in new information to explain the episode numbering. - 18 January 2006

Thanks, now I understand it clearly. :) - 21 January 2006

Dragon Ball Z Uncut airing
Those of you who are complaining about Cartoon Network canning the DBZ uncut episodes should know that Latin TV airs the episodes completely uncensored every morning (in Spanish, of course). Viewers in Los Angeles probably remember that these same Spanish episodes aired on KWHY channel 22 from 2001 to 2003. Also Latin TV airs uncensored Dragon Ball episodes and DR. Slump as well.

Dragon ball Z Pictures
I know this obviously has already been discussed but can you guys update me on the picture situation. Almost all dbz articles have popular circulated pictures and their is no stated license. So should this pictures be deleted or they all considered to be fair use? Tutmosis 23:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Sagas
The sagas section has innacurate list of what episodes belong to each saga. I double checked on many sources and I would like someone else to confirm. The major inacurity starts from Vegeta Saga since it has 10 extra episodes. Can someone double check and post back so i will know that others agree with this since i dont wish to start changing all those articles without support. Tutmosis 03:12, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I fixed the episode saga lists and their were no responses as objection. I cant stop you from reverting/changing everything back but I would ask kindly if you looking to do so inform me/us the reason.Tutmosis 19:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC) Thank You!

Reverting my changes/work
To,


 * 82.155.168.116
 * User:Muchi

which i believe is the same person, do not revert all my edits like that without giving an explanation. If you dont agree with my edits then why dont you post your objections.

Especially DO NOT revert all the work I have spent couple hours doing in Babidi Saga.

Its obviously you do not agree with the episode listing changes I did, but i have asked for objection, see above. Provide the objection otherwise dont revert.

I also believe this is personal since you are reverting all changes i did to this articles.

For onlookers you can see our reverts in all saga articles and List of Dragon Ball Episodes. As of now i reverted all this persons reverts.

Explain yourself and provide your objection in an open discussion. Thank You Tutmosis 21:37, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I revert those articles, because DBZ has 291 episodes, not 276, that's the only and simple reason. Dragon Ball Z is a japanese show, not an american one, it should be 291 episodes and not 276, and both japanese and english titles should be keept. And also, Seasons 1 and 2 were already redubbed, there are new titles. User:Muchi


 * You want to edit the episode lists then provide some sources since all of mine say 276. Im reverting your reverts again since i wont stand u reverting addition work i've done.Tutmosis 02:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have reverted all your reverts (2nd time) now, until you provide some sources. Also when you get your sources DO NOT revert my work especially like i pointed out in Babidi Saga. You want to change the episodes lists, fine, give me sources then edit the pages and change only the episodes lists. You dont agree with additional changes I've made then please be kind to point out what Wikipedia rule i've broken. Tutmosis 03:05, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have done some background check and 291 is the number of episodes apperently in Japan when 276 in the States. Since this is english wikipedia you can add the Japanese listings but do Not delete the english episodes lists since this is afterall the enlish wikipedia. You feel so strongly about the japanese lists then you can add it to coexist with the english one to provide a broader range of information. Tutmosis 03:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

You want sources, I give you sources: However with the redub, there are no longer 276 episodes,but 291, you can even check ou the official site for the new titles. User:Muchi
 * www.dragonballz.com
 * www.daizex.com
 * www.kenzentai.com


 * www.daizex.com only has dragonball gt listings
 * www.kenzentai.com doesnt work
 * www.dragonballz.com >sagas section doesnt list episodes 22-67. You can see that that saiyan saga ends at episode 21 and the very next saga listed starts at 68. It also shows the last episode at number 290 so this is inconsistent with what you telling me. Your sources obviously have some technicalities. Please provide any other if available Tutmosis 19:56, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


 * This dispute is over since me and Muchi appear to have agreed in how the new pages look. I hope he feels the same. Tutmosis 02:32, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Is there a DBZ Manga?
I recently removed references to a "Dragon Ball Z manga" on several DBZ-related pages and a user disgreed with me. I figured the best place to raise the question was here, since it is simpler than discussing it on every page I had edited. I am of the opinion that since DBZ is based entirely on Dragon Ball, there is no DBZ manga. I am aware that in translating DB into English, the later issues which correspond to DBZ have been re-titled DBZ (is this only in the US?). These facts are made clear in this article, which all DBZ-related articles link back to. Further complicating matters is that there are plenty of characters unique to DBZ (e.g. Vegeta), so to claim that he appears in the "Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z manga" is confusing at best (and misleading at worst) in my opinion. I think the best way to handle this is, when discussing the manga, to only refer to it as "Dragon Ball." --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 11:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I answered this question (in response to a revert of your edits) on Talk:Super_Saiyan, but I'll just cut-and-paste what I said here:


 * We're arguing over semantics and I don't think it's important. If you want to say "DBZ manga" then go right ahead, but it's not accurate. In Japan, there are two releases of the Dragon Ball manga: one in 42 volumes and one in 36 volumes. I own some of both, but not all. The 42-volume version has been released in the US split into two chunks. Volumes 1 through 16 were released by VIZ in the as "Dragon Ball" and the rest as "Dragon Ball Z". I presume these are the releases that you are talking about, but it was simply a marketing decision to release the books with the name most familiar to the readers. (If you check any of the volumes' cover art, you can still see the original number. For example, Goku wears a shirt with "17" on it on the first DBZ volume. And in the lower-right corner, there's a "DB 17 of 42" label.)


 * Now, you could *also* be talking about the movie tie-in mangas which were released in Japan and titled DBZ. These were not mangas in the traditional sense because they just consisted of animation captured from the movies with text bubbles. However, they aren't mangas in the strict sense of the word, but hey. We speak English and not Japanese and one word is as good as another.


 * The other important fact is that when the manga was originally produced in Shonen Jump, it was always called "Dragon Ball", up to the final chapter with Uub. I can scan the title page of that if you like.


 * BUT, this is the English Wikipedia and we're concerned with the English releases and it is a reasonable thing for a person to say that there was a "DBZ manga" because that is the only form they know of it. We should at least make sure that the Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z pages contain accurate information. JRP 13:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * In hindsight, I think I probably jumped the gun on all of this. Strictly speaking, manga in Japanese can refer to "comics" and "cartoons" which means there absolutely is a DBZ manga. Of course, when English speakers say "manga" they are refering to Japanese print comics which wouldn't include DBZ. Call it semantics, nitpicking or just accuracy but I feel like to "invent" a DBZ manga in this way diminishes the impact of the original DB which actually spawned all of this media (TV, movies, games, toys, etc). What if we use language like this:


 * (e.g.) "Vegeta or Prince Vegeta is a fictional character in the manga Dragon Ball and subsequent anime Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT."


 * --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 14:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

About NPOV
Is it really neccesary for that large episode transcript to exist? It spoils the flow of the article. Also this article seems to be biased towards the original version, wheather it's better or not shouldn't really be a part of the Dragonball Z Wiki. It's just childish.

Uncut still airing?
Is the DBZ airing Monday to Thursday at 10:30 on CN uncut? Cause I see some features are from the edited, but some are uncut. --Some Random IP Address
 * No I really think that all of them were changed back to the soulless, bare bones version with the frothy water and everything

Toonami Timeslot Controversy
Is the section still needed? It's old news, and the section itself is getting filled with infomation unrelated to the "controversy". Should we remove it? - CurlyJ 02:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed the section due to redudancy 202.7.202.2 08:54, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

wats redudancy??

Budokai 3 for the gamecube
Why this Budokai 3 is list down for the gamecube there no info for the gamecube i'm removeing - Ratchetcomand 5:33 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed the section due to redudancy Ratchetcomand 5:33 10 April 2006 (UTC

Tagalog Dubbing
Please Take Care of these Pinoy cast in wikipedia. User:Pinoy Manga/Anime

English Dubbing
I know Saban International dubbed the Vegeta and Namek Sagas, but FUNimation dubbed the rest. Did FUNimation really re-dub the Vegeta and Namek Sagas? And if so, are they available on DVD? Jienum

Yes they have. They released the 2 sagas as "Ultimate Uncut", and are in the process of releasing them on DVD 202.7.202.2 09:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * And are the music and episode title cards still the same as on the FUNimation dubbed Sagas or are they different? Jienum


 * Do you mean compared to the original edited version? One way or the other, the title cards are completely new for the ultimate uncut editions.--GeneralDuke 22:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I mean the edited versions of the FUNimation dubbed Sagas, like Freeza, Garlic Jr., Trunks, Androids, Cell, Majin Buu, etc. Is the music on the re-dubbed sagas still the same as on the edited FUNimation sagas, or is it different? Jienum

Am i going crazy or are swear words used quite alot in the Japanese version of DBZ? I was watching Movie 13 and Vegeta says: " You f***ing bastard you dare destroy my house? Now im really pissed off!!" He then screams " F**K YOU! " while flying at Hidelgran. Am i imagining this or what? KojiDude 04:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)KojiDudeKojiDude 04:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You likely have a fansub. They like to make the dialogue seem worse than it is. I think the REAL dialogue in this scene is "How dare you destroy my freakin' house?! I'm pissed off now! Don't come too close or you'll get yourself fried!" -- RattleMan 04:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


 * And it's probably an Anime Labs fansub at that. They are notorious for sticking in profanity where there really isn't any. The truth is DBZ doesn't have all that much swearing in it.--GeneralDuke 22:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

There is no budokai 3 for gamecube-[user:c-230therobot]

Split Video Games
I beleive we should split Dragon Ball Z Video Games into a new article, and clean it up. While also adding screen shots ect. I also reckon we should include Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT games too. CurlyJ 09:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with that. We should sub-divide sections by console and country releases, and only include English and Japanese releases. --EMC 05:12, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Censorship removed?
06:29, 13 April 2006 CurlyJ (→Censorship Issues) How come everything that was there was removed? I think the newer version of the article removes a lot about the level of the original censorship.

It was because the article began to ramble on a bit, we don't really need to know exactly what was edited (There's already plenty of websites for that) just that it was censored. CurlyJ 08:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Android saga
Hi, Androids Saga has listed for cleanup since April 2005. Anyone here competent and/or willing to give it a try? Kaisershatner 17:17, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

DBZ Music
Does anyone know the name or origin of the music where Majin Vegeta pays tribute to Trunks before blowing himself up. If anyone can help me, i'll apreciate it. Thanks.

Brad92 14:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Kirby Morrow
If I recall, Kirby Morrow only did the voice for Goku for one episode. Is this really significant? --EMC 04:07, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually he perfomed the voice of Goku for the Ocean Group dub of Dragon Ball Z. And I'm referring to the one which aired on YTV in Canada. VelocityEX 03:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

# of Episodes
DBZ has 276 episodes, not 291...I know because I torrented it all...also, all of the saga episode groupings are completely wrong for the funimation section, but I refuse to edit that much info...I fixed it anyway...

NO, it does have 291 episodes, the original dub edited out 15 episodes of content. The new "Ultimate Uncut" dub has corrected this. 202.7.202.2 09:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I've edited it back to the proper episode number. I know you had good intentions but please, check before you edit. 202.7.202.2 09:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the article should state this information somewhere...it says nothing about the Uncut releases...

Good article nominee?
User:Buster Sword has nominated it for a good article. Although it's not a bad article, there are no references, etc. and has already been rated B-Class by the anime and manga WikiProject. The user also doesn't seem to know much about the good article nomination process. Should we de-list the nomination or see how it plays out? -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The nom tag should be put up if anyone really wants to go through with this, I was going to review it and delist it (one ref for the Z not meaning anything doesn't seem like much), but if it wasn't filed properly somebody can just remove it themself from the nom list if you want. Homestarmy 17:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

the z
I always thought that it was just a fancy way to write dragonballs and that it was just a plurul form of the original series name 24.3.36.164 01:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC) According to Toriyama, he added the Z because it sounded cool.

(Uncut DVDs past the Ginyu saga)
Are the English "Uncut" DVDs released for Frieza saga, Cell saga, ect, actually uncut? And BTW I'm talking about the ones that were released as standalone DVDs with only afew episodes each. And if it is censored, does FUNimation plan on redubbing all of the sagas to be uncencored?

They are uncut.

Saga DVD list
I think it could be useful to add some DVD information (like the information we find on amazon) into each of the saga's pages since the pages already contain episodes lists. Otherwise I don't know where to put these. A DVD list or something? Is anyone agreeing with me?--GGs 22:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Creative changes
Hello all, I just read that according to whoever write this on this site: "Goku is booed in the English version but is cheered on in the Japanese version" Now, I watched both the English and Japanese versions of the episodes where Goku fights Cell and the dialogue is pretty much the same. If anything, the English version does have more people cheering on Goku than in the Japanese version.

(With the little girl and her mother after Goku used the Instant Transmission Kamehameha on Cell) Japanese Version: Little Girl: Will we not be seeing Mr. Satan anymore? (Or something like that) Her Mom: It appears so.

English Version: Little Girl: Let's go, Mom. Her Mom: (referring to Goku) I want to find out who this young man is.

(When Goku is shooting countless Ki blasts at Cell) Japanese Version: Little Girl: What's going on!?

English Version: Little Girl: Come on! Get him!

Aside from that, the translation is pretty accurate in the English version. PNFProud Nintendo Fan

What about the power levels being on this page
How about having the powerlevel on this page with accurate information.

No. 202.7.202.2 08:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

3 billion sales?
Is it true that all of dbz merchandise equals up to 3 billion dollars i got my source from attack of the show in the episode about anime os still good or something.

Good Article nomination has failed
The Good article nomination for has failed This is a good read, but it needs some work before it is ready for GA status. Keep up the good work!
 * Needs a copyedit for grammar, punctuation, and capitalization.
 * Needs verifiable sources for its statements, preferably using inline citations.
 * Several wikilinks go to disambig pages or other wrong places.

Aguerriero ( talk ) 22:35, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Clothing
Maybe it's a good idea to put some information on clothing somewhere. Various clothes have been weared throughout the serie's, such as Goku's suit, Vegeta's spandex suit with body armor, Piccolo's suit and many others. If possible, please add some pictures (I'll write some info about it myself to) -Jort227 19:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Future Releases
Does anyone have any information on the future DVD Box Sets? If you can give me a link to a site or something, that would be great. Sasuke-kun 27  23:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Check www.animeondvd.com, nothing has been announced as of yet, but when it does, it'll be more than likely reported through there.

Bruce Faulconer!!!
Someone should professionaly edit the article to state that in the FUNimation DUB from Season 2 - Last, Bruce Faulconer did the Music, and link to him!

Thanks for readin! --Marekso 13:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Faulconer did not provide the music for Seasons 1 or 2. He provided the music from the Ginyu Saga all the way to Kid Buu. That was it.

Movie Names
Since this is the English Wikipedia, shouldn't the DBZ movies be listed under their English names? For example, "Return my Gohan!!!" should be listed as "Dead Zone". TJ Spyke 07:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Cut out episodes
Apparently, in the English dub, 15 episodes were cut so that it has 276 instead of the full 291 episodes in the Japanese version. Can somebody call me where/what episodes they cut out, because there don't seem to be any gaps in the story that would indicate episodes being cut out. Also, can someone tell me about the "Ultimate Uncut" dub. Is it out on DVD? - The preceding comment was made by Grevenko Sereth 20:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

No criticisms?
This entry reads like a fan-boy website. There aren't any negative aspects to this show? --24.249.108.133 20:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you add some then? Personally I don't think "Toei Sagas" and "Voice Cast" sound fan-boyish to me... CurlyJ 08:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think I would definently add for the fact that it took like what? 23-40 episodes for Namek to explode? (it may sound like an exaggeration, but it's probably not that far off) and the fact that the Cell Saga could have been condensed to 7 episodes (even 3). This series is one of the most drawn out things in the history of any TV show.


 * Yes it is very drawn out, but ask any fan and they wouldn't have a problem with it. It's length was one of the things that made DBZ such a good anime. I wouldn't have problem if you added some criticisms, but they would have to be credibly cited and not your own opinion. For example, find some sources first and write it properly, should be fine as long as you don't go and use weasel words or no cites, e.g. 'Some people say that the series was too drawn out' would not be a good way to put it. I'm only explaining this as the first writer didn't have an account and the second did not sign. 203.217.88.4 00:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

dbz movie?
i heard a while back ...somewhere about a live action dbz movie...is this information false or is there truth to it?


 * A while ago there were rumors that Fox had picked up the rights to it, but the project never went anywhere. Anything you might have heard since then is completely unfounded speculation and based on rumors that fans have started over the years.--GeneralDuke 18:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

thank you for clarifying ive been wondering it for the longest time :)

DBZ in popular culture?
Kinda moving on what the no criticisms header brought up, this article could really do with an examination of it's impact and reputation outside of it's fanbase. The whole OHMYGOD THIS POWER I'VE NEVER FELT ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE LETS STAND HERE THE WHOLE EPISODE GRRRR cliche isn't mentioned at all, and it would be fair to say that DBZ is reckonised at least as much for it's goofiness than it is for it's action and plot, and alot more so than it is for it's 'themes of fatherhood'.

83.151.197.97 10:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Well why don't you add some criticisms then, only read what I wrote in the No criticisms section first. 203.217.88.4 00:43, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think there should be mention of that AMV with Vegeta made out singing Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You". And also the one with Goku charging up knocks over some goats.


 * None of this'll be added. And if it is, it'll be reverted on sight.-- SU IT  23:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Innacuracy
There is a problem in this article as it mentions that the bilingual/uncut DBZ episodes have not been released to the public in North America. This is not true as of recent times. The DVDs are avaliable from Funimation and are bilingual and uncut discs. I don't know how this went unnoticed and I hope it gets fixed to show that the uncut/bilingual DVDs are avaliable. This will further legitamize the rest of Wikipedia by showing that the info is up to date and accurate. I hope this does change to the truth. If it isn't changed then I will change it myself.

Fandom?
It might be helpful to add a list and maybe an explination for some of the more common fandoms. Not just with DBZ, but with a suprising number of anime alot of people I talk to mistake alot of Fandoms for fact.


 * Um, no, it isn't necessary.-- SU IT

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