Talk:Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3/Archive 1

Burdock images
I put two images of Bardock transforming into a oozaru, but I want them to be together. Like the second image underneath the first one. Can I do that? --Naruto134 00:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Personally, I like the images the way they are now (it fits in with the gallery format). But if you think you can make it so that the images are lying over top each other or side-by-side, then by all means feel free to do so. // Decaimiento Poético  14:20, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

US release date
Gamestop claims a come to the States during the Holiday Season. Should we put Winter for the release date or Fall? The Japaneese release date is Autum, which is fall in the states. Or was Gamestop saying it will be released in Japan in the holiday season?? Ugh to confusing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.68.211.16 (talk • contribs).
 * I know what ya mean. All the sites seem to have the same release date, but none of them say where it's being released. The only lead I have so far on a release date for a specific country is Autumn for Japan (see http://dbzs.jp/meteor/). // Decaimiento Poético  22:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I suppose we post Q4 2007 for the States' release date 'cause I saw the same thing at places like GameSpot. // SuperRocker529
 * They never specifically say that it'll be released this year in the states. I'm not saying it won't, because I actually believe it will, but saying it'll be released during the holiday season in the US without proof would be original research. // Decaimiento Poético  02:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandelism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/66.231.2.104 This person keeps vandelising articles, and puts it random, non confirmed things. --Takuy 22:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Questionable images
Someone recently added images of a young Kuririn and GT Goten which looked like character previews for the game. I removed these for now for two reasons: one, there is no fair use claim nor source on either picture; two, they don't have Atari logos on them like the other character previews, which I find odd as Atari almost always tags them with such logos. Can someone take the time to see if these pictures are real or not? // Decaimiento Poético  01:16, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * They are fake most probably. We have never recieved characters first by Random Imageshack hosted previews., usualy by website, or V-Jump scan.. Also, they are saved and JPGs. All the previews are Gifs. And compare the position. In the official previews they were in front view. Also, why'd you remove the picture of Kid Goku looking at moon going oozaru. It confirmed him, and Oozaru. =( And those other 3 pictures I put, they had 2 different Faces, that means, SSJ, or USSJ was confirmed.--Takuy 02:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, this was just posted on atari; http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/8/5/26/f_FAKESm_8484434.jpg http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/8/5/26/f_FAKES2m_e2b09f8.jpg Proving they are very good edits. --Takuy 02:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think we should kill all potential controversy and just not allow profiles shots of characters. A few gameplay shots from official sources is acceptable, but we don't need to indulge in poses, and it just opens the door to edits like those above. Onikage725 12:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * So, no profile shots? I'm okay with that. We also shouldn't post images of every new character or feature. In fact, we should probably stop adding pictures altogether and just use references to demonstrate the new character/fearure because the gallery will most likely be removed after the game is released and all the hype has died down. // Decaimiento Poético  13:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. Onikage725 16:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Adding to this, it is NOT confirmed, but GT "kid" kakaort IS in the trailer for DBZ:BT3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8FnNLqVOas Colors on the shirt are inverted, but there's a TON of videos on youtube with the same image. GreenAiden555 22:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sombody already beat you to it. // Decaimiento Poético  22:52, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Correction
Fixed the external link to Wii-volution: Heres the before and after, http://www.wii-volution.com/game-news/atari-announces-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3.html http://www.wii-volution.com/game-news/atari-announces-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-2.html The -2 displays the site properly I have found.

More confirmed Characters
Look here there is some more characters that have been confirmed. http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb52/leshark1/

is this a reliable source? --User:Entei-Anubis
 * I'm cautious to believe character profiles after our little GT Goten and Kid Kuririn incident. If you can get proof that Atari officially created and released this pictures, then I'll believe you. Also... who the hell is this supposed to be...? // Decaimiento Poético  00:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that's the robot Goku faced in db, right before Krillin got his ass handed to him by General Blue. Im not sure though.The pictures fake. Some guy on the atari boards confessed to making it.SSJ Gokan 01:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that is Kaizoku-Robo, the mechanical pirate. The S 05:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

This can be deemed fake now, as the Spopovich picture is different from the official one. Superior1 22:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Great Ape, not Ozaroo
Why are they still listed in their Japanese names? Its being released in America, so I beleive it is neccesary to change the names. --User:DOOMtech

Dont answer too quickly now. --User:DOOMtech

All Characters
I think we should put in all the playable characters that we know that are going to be returning in DBZ: BT3 because it be kind of stupid to have only a few characters that have been confirmed. Johnny542 00:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Original research. // Decaimiento Poético  00:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with him above it says a 150 characters meaning there approximately 30 new characters User:Kami-Sama
 * From WP:OR: "Original research (OR) is a term used in Wikipedia to refer to unpublished facts, arguments, concepts, statements, or theories. The term also applies to any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position." Any unproven characters will be removed on sight per OR. //  Decaimiento Poético  17:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks, if any of you guys can do, it can make the article better. Also I will help out in puting the characters in if more people agree with me. But wait if there are 30 new characters, how come it says 20 in the article and in the websites, I'm so confused. Johnny542 18:57, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There was 129 characters in BT2 and there are 150 in BT3, meaning there are 20 new characters in this game and Kami made a typo.
 * And as I said earlier, adding a character without confirmation and only the theory that since they were in the last game, they'll be in this one is original research and your edits will be reverted, no matter how many people agree with your idea. // Decaimiento Poético 01:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

How come there are only 20 new, I can think of a lot more besides 20 like up to 30 or even 40. There are still lots that have not been confirmed like Hirudegarn's first form, Trunks' real Super form, General Rildo and all his forms, the DBGT versions of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten and Trunks and their Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 3 forms, all the Dragons with the Dragon Balls, Bio-Broly and a lot more. Besides if you add 129 characters with 20 new, that gives you only 149, not 150 and if you add 134 with 20, it gives you about 154. Johnny542 19:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, you can cut the smart ass act; it's not exact numbers. On the case for BT2, they said 120 characters yet there were 130 (in most versions). And this isn't a forum to list every possible playable characters, so I suggest you stop using it as such. // Decaimiento Poético  19:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

WTF Goten,Trunks,Vegeta,and Gohan never went Super Saiyan 3!!! I doubt they are going to include fan-fiction characters.--User:DOOMtech

Sorry, I meant for Goku, not the other Saiyans. Johnny542 21:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Goku SSJ3 wouldn't be a new character because he's already on BT2. User:Fenderplaynkid

Hey, someone is adding Goku and Piccolo in the new Characters, i can´t quit it all the time! Stop with that please.

I meant Kid Goku from GT, okay. Johnny542 23:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

is apple, frieza soldier, pilaf machine, king piccolo and cyborg tao counted in that 20 new characters? that would bring the count down to 15, and with nail, king cold,babadi, spopovich, gt goku and king vegeta that brings it down only 9 more yet to be revealed.
 * They aren't included in the count. It would be kinda weird if they counted five previously playable characters as new, don't you think? // Decaimiento Poético  14:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Release Date
according to IGN.com this game will be released in the US in november 2007... is this confirmed by the company or not?70.124.5.133 18:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Babidi & Spopovicth CONFIRMED
See Here, from official japanese forums;

New characters confirmed
Babidi, Spopovitch, Videl, Gohan, and Majin Vegeta. Note that Gohan's Great Saiyaman outfit isn't the separate character itself, just an alternate costume for the regular Gohan (the character icon at the top shows Gohan and not the G.S. helmet). // Decaimiento Poético  16:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That Gohan doesnt look like the Great Saiyaman it looks like his alt from BT2. There hasnt been a picture of G.S yet so we dont know if it's an alt or an alt character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.13.166.201 (talk • contribs).
 * i think on the DBZ BT3 article it should have a list of all the charaters from tenkaichi 2 as possible charcters and have a debate about the new possible ones. the official website said 150 characters. it isnt neceserally an exact amount just a rough guide so there could be 155 chars. User:andrico1234 13:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Adding unconfirmed characters would be original research, a big no-no on Wikipedia articles. No rumoured characters, no this-guy-was-in-BT2-so-he's-gotta-be-in-BT3 characters, and no excpetions. Also, this isn't the place to "debate" on who'll be the new characters; conversation like that belongs on a forum. // Decaimiento Poético  19:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Yamcha, Piccolo, Hirudegarn (final form), Vegeta (second form), Gogeta (SS), Android 13 (fusion), and Chiaotzu. All names are based off the names from BT2 and may change over time. Also note that Yakon and Pui Pui are from Babidi's attacks, not playable characters. // Decaimiento Poético  00:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Babidi
Can we somehow mention Babidi's use of Yakon and Pui Pui with his attacks? It's confirmed with new information, and is pretty important. --ps2muse 00:30, 23 June 2007 (English Time)
 * Two questions: 1) Where has Yakon and Pui Pui been confirmed as parts of his attacks? 2) What makes it so important to note? // Decaimiento Poético  23:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Uhh, Poetic Decay, you just stated "Also note that Yakon and Pui Pui are from Babidi's attacks, not playable characters."So maybe that implied him to ask. User:Fonzie77
 * Look at the time difference; I posted that a day after my comment in this discussion. // Decaimiento Poético  22:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry my mistake.User:Fonzie77

Fasha/Selipa
Selipa/Fasha was confirmed in an interview here.http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592251-SSJ Gokan 03:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The way Poetic Decay is running this page, no one's allowed to add a character to the list until their picture, screenshot or video clip is shown.


 * Thats not the way he is "running the page" thats the rules of the entire Wikipedia. Where is a picture of Fasha? Where is some proof besides a probably fake interview? there is none, so for now, no Fasha. --User:Atomic Religione


 * I'm not sure how an official Q&A chat event could even remotely be considered fake...
 * People made more than believable videos about Toma being in Tenkaichi 2, and plenty of people believed them to be true (myself included) until the game was released. People have also been making false promo pictures of "new playable characters," such as GT Goten and Kid Krillin. Simply taking someone's word on the matter is not enough to constitute solid proof. // Decaimiento Poético  15:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Cover characters
shouldnt we add goten kid trunks and android 18. since they are in the over. and obviously gonna be innit. User:andrico1234
 * Characters featured on the cover of a game are not always playable. I suggest you take a look at the cover of Naruto: Ultimate Ninja, then take a look at the playable character list. Also, that would be WP:OR. // Decaimiento Poético  15:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

It's obvious that they'll be in the game, but we can't add them until there is an official confirmation of it. Yup,yup, even if there is a Mario game, but mario hasnt been confirmed we cant put that he is actually in it. So until the official website (or other reliable source) says so, we cannot put them in the article. --User:Fonzie77

Yakon and Pui Pui - Playable or Not?
I saw the images of Yakon and Pui Pui being used as Babidi special attacks, but could they also be playable? I mean other characters are attacks (like Gohan as Videl's special attack, Android 17 and 18, Gohan and Goten Bro Kamehameha, Gohan and Goku Father Kamehameha, etc.).
 * Comparing Yakon and Pui Pui to the attacks of others is pointless, as it doesn't prove anything. As of now, they are not playable (that was said at least two or three times above now). // Decaimiento Poético  15:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Also it'd be WP:OR. --User:Fonzie77

Yakon and Pui are playable. Check out this IGN page:
 * Notice the health bars. They're just special attacks of Babidi. // Decaimiento Poético  00:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Yakon, and Pui Pui are Babidi's Blast 2 moves. His Ultimate is a beam from the energy absorber. Tetra Vega 04:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

King Vegeta Oozaru
King Vegeta was confirmed to have an Oozaru form here http://dbzs.jp/meteor/p_characters/01_great_ape_king_vegeta.html-SSJ Gokan 06:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

TenShinHan CONFIRMED
see here, Check it out at the Official Japanese Site Here

Why add Androud 13, Hirudagarn when they're not confirmed?
Why add Androud 13, Hirudagarn when they're not confirmed?--217.132.231.176 12:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * They were confirmed on The Wiire.com, though the link isn't working on my computer right now so I don't know if it will on your's either. // Decaimiento Poético  15:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Z-Burst Dash and Z-Counter
These are two new features confirmed for BT3, but I don't know how to add them into the article, because I'm not that much of a Wikipedian. |Here's the link for more info!

I just added them actually, then came here to put the link incase people complained about the reference. I'm going to try to reference it myself but it probably won't work right.... Simondrake 18:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Character List Policy
Does anyone remember the Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 page character list battles? In the end there was a hidden warning at the start and end of the list explaining only to use the English names and only to put characters with a reference showing them in a gameplay video or screenshot. I think that sort of thing should be brought in here as soon as possible. When people hear about this game (Like at E3) they're going to come vandalising.

My suggestion is to leave Puipui and Yakon in for now. They're in a gameplay screenshot and although I personally don't think they're playable (But rather are attacks for Babadi) I think it's best to leave them in. If someone has seen the screenshot and sees that they're not listed on here they'll probably decide to 'help' and add them, along with a couple of rumours they heard in the GameFAQs forums... Taking them out now won't add much to the integrity of the article (Which is already tentative given the flimsy nature of almost all the information released so far and will almost certainly be changed drasticly in the months to come) but it will help stop edit wars. Being calm and polite is the key to getting through this game release without too many problems.Simondrake 18:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Notes should be added using the <-- hidden comment --> format (which have been added quite some time ago), but Yakon and Pui Pui should not be added to the playable character list. If people add them, just remove them and if necessary talk to them (civily) on their talk pages. // Decaimiento Poético  19:33, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

If we're supposed to be using the English names, then we should probably correct the Ginyu Force and Yajirobe's names (which are currently listed, for example, as Jheese instead of Jeice, Gurd instead of Guldo, and Yajirobei instead of Yajirobe).--208.104.151.47 14:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Protect
Can we get this page protected? All these IP's are coming out of the woodwork and adding characters to the list. --User;Atomic Religione

70.144.37.75 18:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)i agree they should make it so people who are registered can edit pages

Broly CONFIRMED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz-mQhxyCA0 Shin-Broly 19:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

SS4 Gogeta
Have you put up SS4 Gogeta or will it be confirmed. 70.144.37.75 18:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He hasn't been confirmed yet, so he won't be added to the list until he is. // Decaimiento Poético  18:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Characters Confirmed
Look here. SSJ4 Gogeta, Android 13 base, and base Bojack are confirmed in this video. http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-video-39789.html-SSJ Gokan 16:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

New Character late DB goku type *pronounced Goku (mid)*
http://www.dailymotion.com/fere123/video/x2h3fi_goku-normal-japon-expo

more vids http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9130323&postcount=1

Eh Mid Goku isnt DB Goku. It was confirmed as Saiyan- Frieza saga Goku.

More Returning Characters
Check this out!!! Base and SS Trunks w/ Sword, Final Form Cooler, Meta-Cooler, Super Vegeta, and Perfect Form Cell are confirmed in this new trailer from the Japan Expo: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=UDwHkbW9yoQ SuperRocker529 14:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Either new broly or new costume
second coming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F70f4UHhuf4
 * Even with all the saga splitting (like "End" Vegeta, "Mid" Goku, "Early" Piccolo, etc.), I highly doubt that's a new Broly. // Decaimiento Poético  21:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks to me like regular old-fasioned Super Saiyan Broly. If you look at his wiki article it lists his transformations: regular (skinny with black hair), restricted Super Saiyan (skinny with dark green hair, not in any games so far), Super Saiyan (slightly beefier with blond hair and some green energy effects), Legendary Super Saiyan (very beefy with blond hair and green energy effects). This one would be Super Saiyan, blond hair but not super super beefy. Not a new form, just a slightly confusing one if you don't look closely at the transformations he can do.Simondrake 21:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Restricted SSj is the only SSJ besides legendary SSJ in Tenkaichi 2. No regular super saiyan

It's his alt. Broli's 2nd costume is his movie 10 look, with the normal blond SSJ hair, ripped pants, and no mind control device. Tetra Vega 04:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not a costume. Vegeta beat him up, look at the health gauge during the video. It's Broly's regular SS form, not the blue haired restricted form. --Naruto134 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

It;s an alt costume for Broly's Restricted form. It was confirmed somewhere on atari I think. Go figure-SSJ Gokan 19:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Release Date
I found the release date but its on gamefly its 11/15/07 Kyuubi29 23:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

SSJ3 Kid Goku confirmed
In this screenshot from the japanese trailer http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z313/SonicCloud1985/SS3KidGoku.jpg

Also Appule is confirmed as well-SSJ Gokan 12:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That screenshot is obviously a fake. To prove it just watch the same moment in the promo video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3XdJ5tQpTs . The picture is not a promo image but rather from a common screenshot from Dragonball GT. Here is a sample of that picture without any background: http://myfavoritegames.com/detail.aspx?i=Goku%2fGoku_SSJ3%2fssj3goku.jpg . Kuririn's promo image is replaced by this one in the screenshot linked above. Im going to take the liberty of removing this before anyone else get's false hope from a forgery. Maphisto86 04:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

However, it's the same pick because he is performing the same move. Also you can tell that it is a character model that is in game. Why would the Official trailor have GT Goku in it if he wasn't going to be in the game? Desert Spada 06:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, yes, as I munch on a healthy plate of crow I must apologize to you all here. My skepticism was spawned by other well crafted forgeries and while I knew this was the official trailer I didn't see SSJ3 Kid Goku there despite close examination (pause, pause again, look,). He is just the last character shown. Since Spike's promo image of SSj3 Kid Goku is so similiar to the older image I thought it must have been a fake. Only after I went to the forums as Daizex.com and saw people I trusted continuing to claim that it wasen't a fake I tried again and managed to see the truth. Thank you for reverting my brash edit. These are one of those times Im glad Im wrong. I just hope we see more evidence of a GT Kid Goku in the near future to any doubts he will be included in the final game to rest. Maphisto86 06:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

More Confirmed Characters
Turles, Salsa, Grandpa Gohan, Android 19, Zarbon, Frieza 100%, Ginyu, Dodoria, Vegito, Buff Roshi, Great Saiyawoman and Supreme Kai are confirmed in this video.

also ultimate gohan, frieza 3rd form. bojack and bebi was confirmed. look closely near the end. andrico1234
 * This clearer version of the video also confirms Uub, Hercule, Zangya, and SS3 GT Kid Goku. // Decaimiento Poético  16:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * What about baby vegeta he's in there too, also didn't see ss3 kid goku from gt
 * Andrico already stated Baby-Vegeta's appearance, and he's been added to the article a while ago. Also, SS3 GT Kid Goku's appearance takes place within a fraction of a second, and I have been lucky enough to pause at just the right moment ast least twice, but there's no way I can prove that. Here's the screen shot from the video, though. // Decaimiento Poético  00:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok know i got it right, i use the search and used dbz:bt3 which only give a few characters but i got right know, aslo yeah i did see kurlin, then a blur of a great ape and next to that was an image of some one in super saiyan 3 which i believe was ss3 kid goku yeah i see what you mean about hard to find

Here you go
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=630

Look through them forums for videos. Pretty much all characters from the previous game have been confirmed in one video or another.

I'm just going to go ahead and add the ones confirmed in some of the trailers.

Edit: Nevermind, I was beat to it.

30+ levels confirmed for BT3
Again, its me, the guy who isn't a Wikipedian! Anyway, this | link proves that there will be "more than 30 battle stages", so please add it to the article, whoever reads this message and knows how to reference something they write in the article. By the way, read the official Atari blog post clearly.

New Mode?
On the Jap website, on the video at the bottom it said "Super Survivor" It think that is the name if a new mode.
 * "Super Survivor" is the game's theme song. Also, "Jap" is a very derogatory term. If you want to use an abbreviation, "JPN" is your best bet. // Decaimiento Poético  01:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Kid Krillin
HELLO

I DONT KNOW HOW TO ADD SOMENTHING NEW TO THE DISCUSSION BUT PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS

ON SPARKING METEOR OFFICIAL WEBPAGE YOU CAN SEE IN THE FEAURES SEGMENT (2007 06 26) 6 PICTURES. THE LOWER LEFT PICTURE SHOWS SON GOKU (YOUNG) TRANSFORMING INTO OOZARU MODE. IN THAT PICTURE GOKU'S OPPONET (JUDGING BY THE FACE PICTURE OF THE OPPONET) IS CLEARLY KRILLIN AS A KID (AS IN DB).

THIS I THINK CONFIRMS A NEW CHARACTER KRILLIN (YOUNG)
 * This is the same image, only larger. It's just DBZ Krillin. Also, please refrain from using all caps next time. // Decaimiento Poético  19:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Everyone from BT2 is back
From IGN:

So should we go ahead and add them all? Thanos6 03:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

SUPER SAIYAN 3?
In the returning character list, it states that Goku will return in Base, SS, and SSJ2. Will he be back as Super Saiyan 3 as well?

Hi i was just reading this and i wondered,the charcters that were unique to the wii version of BT2, such as demon king piccolo and pilaf, will they be in the ps2 version of BT3? Black Adam80.225.222.44

Dan300 08:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Read my message above yours. Thanos6 09:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Unknown Character
On the video that is on the official website if you pause it at exactly 12 seconds or just before appule youll see a green alien in alien armour. im not sure who he is but he isnt in a DBZ game as far as i know andrico1234

Just before Appule is Piccolo, the person at 12 seconds in is Meta-Coola, the transformation of Frieza's brother Coola in one of the films. He was in Tenkaichi 2Simondrake 12:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Its not him. its a green alien with white facial hair.
 * You mean Frieza Soldier? It's the only character I can think of that fits the discription. Also, please sign your posts with ~ . // Decaimiento Poético  21:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Demon King
Under the returning character list, it states that Picollo Daimou will be in the game. It might be true I just want to know where was it confirmed.-SSJ Gokan 15:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Demon King Piccolo was in the European/Japanese Wii release of Tenkaichi 2 along with Appule. IGN confirmed that all characters from Tenkaichi 2 would be returning, the link is further up. Appule is in, so it's safe to assume that when IGN said ALL they meant ALL the characters, not just the American release.Simondrake 18:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Just add all the characters already!!!
IGN has confirmed that ALL characters from BT2 will be in this game! Find the link above in another post!!!!!!!


 * Erm, I thought we had... Are there any missing?Simondrake 16:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, they were added. SORRY!

Early/Mid/Late
Early/Mid/Late can be new characters? They basicly are new characters, so I think they should be added under new characters.--Takuy 14:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Technically, they're not new. We've always had Base Goku, SS, SS2, Piccolo, etc. What we could do, though, is maybe mention the separation of the Early/Mid/Late characters in a sentence or two above the character table. That, or we could do what we did on the Tenkaichi 2 article with Vegeta.
 * If someone can come up with better ideas, please feel free to apply them. // Decaimiento Poético  16:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Can anyone tell me more about these characters? I mean one goes ss while the other goes ss-ss3. and i also agree with the idea of a sentence or two. Ryu Ematsu


 * This isn't the place to discuss the differences but the basics of it are that the characters get stronger throughout the series so rather than having one 'Goku' there's several, one for early on, one for the middle of the series and one for the end. Different costumes, attacks and strengths for the three game characters to reflect the changes in the cartoon character over the course of the series. The one at the end can go SSJ3 but the one from the start cannot. But that is all that can be said on the matter here, this isn't the place to discuss it.  On a different note, DecaimientoPoético, what did you mean by the thing you did on Tenkaichi 2's article with Vegeta? I know there were several 'editions' of Vegeta in the game, how did you deal with it on that article? Is it still there if I look now?Simondrake 17:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't know what you're talking abut. What exactly did I do to Vegeta on the Tenkaichi 2 page? Ryu Ematsu
 * Sorry, I meant DecaimientoPoético, it's edited now so it might look a bit strange you commenting about it but nevermind.Simondrake 17:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * So let me get this straight. The early Goku means the Piccolo and the Saiyan Saga Goku, the mid Goku is from the Frieza Saga, and the end Goku is the Cell and Buu saga. Am I right? SuperSaiyan Crash 18:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's pretty much it. // Decaimiento Poético  14:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Alos, Scouter vegeta is the one that fought goku in the saiyan saga, early vegeta is The one from Android[ss only], Mid, is SS,USSJ, and late is the SSJ, SSJ2, cause on the JPN site, Early Vegeta is Pre-HBTC Vegeta.--Takuy 15:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

ss3 gt kid goku
should we put ss4 with him instead of making him seperate? Ryu Ematsu


 * hmm, goog point. It makes sense but I'd say no until we know more. In the last game SS4 Goku was seperate from the SS3-able one, so they might keep GT Kid Goku seperate still... We don't know yet so I'd suggest leaving it seperate until we know more. Oh and about my previous comment in the section above, I misread the signatures, I wanted to ask DecaimientoPoético not you, sorry for any confusion.Simondrake 17:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No prob. Anywho, I guess that makes sense. But you do have to keep in mind that this is the first appearance of GT Kid Goku in a Tenkaichi game. Ryu Ematsu

Base GT Goku, Future Gohan, and Nova Shenron confirmed as new characters
SEE HERE IMMEDIATELY: HERE and HERE
 * I've added the characters, but Goku and Nova seem fake to me. Future Gohan is really the only one I feel comfortable with adding due to the surprisingly clear image in the scan. Still, we should be getting a new V-Jump magazine in about two days and more scans are sure to follow. // Decaimiento Poético  13:55, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * As I predicted, clearer scans have arrived. This confirms Base Future Gohan, and this clearly confirms Base GT Kid Goku and Nova. // Decaimiento Poético  14:59, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

pui pui and yakon confirmed 100%
if you go to gamespot and look at the videos both are shown.
 * They're just attacks for Babidi; this is old news. // Decaimiento Poético  16:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

SS GT Goku confirmed in V-Jump scan
http://stat.ameba.jp/user_images/35/8c/10026431784.jpg Superior1 05:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Nova Shenron
Nova Shenron was only shown in his Golden Form (Without Magma Armor). Would that be note-worthy to add to his name on the Wikipedia listing of characters?--Wingedregent 09:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's probably best. I'll go ahead and apply that to the list. // Decaimiento Poético  13:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks!--Wingedregent 22:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Nova or Nuova
Ok It seems that there's been a battle of the Nova's/Nuova's. Nuova is the japanese spelling I think, an dthis is the American page soit should be Nova, corect.-SSJ Gokan 23:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I always thought it was Nova in the English Dub.--Wingedregent 04:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * American Dub Name - Nuova Shenron (pronounced like "Nova")

Japanese Name - Si Xinglong The S 05:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh! OK, thanks! --Wingedregent 06:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Dende
Atari confrimed that dende will be a good character to the Dragon Ball Z Budokai Series. Dende is expected to be in the game as it was revealed in a secret video in an E3 2007 website. Go ahead and add Dende to the list!

Alright! --Wingedregent 08:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * When was Dende confirmed? I need a link to this video or something, cuz I saw no official source confirm this.--Jarvisganon 14:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He wasn't. If he was, I apologize; but we'd need a link to this "secret video" before adding him. // Decaimiento Poético  15:14, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you guys talking about background characters or playable characters? Johnny542 00:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Stages?
Should we gather all the pictures, and make a list of stages?...or waste of space? --Takuy 02:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Eh, it seems like a wate of space till we know em all. --User:Atomic Religione

No. No official names has been given to the stages,it would just be speculation.-SSJ Gokan 03:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Where have you been? There have been at least five to 10 names released so far. At any rate, stage lists are crufty and don't need to be listed anyway. // Decaimiento Poético  03:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah Poetic is right, we've been having a hard time with a bunch of people adding stages on the SSBB article too. --User:Atomic Religione
 * No such thing as "cruft." If someone cares enough about it to be in, and it's verifiable, it should be in. Thanos6 09:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * A rose by any other name still smells the same. Call it what you want - cruft, excess material, pointless information - it's not notable no matter how verifiable it is. We have this same problem at the Naruto game articles. People suggest and request (sometimes demand and even threaten us) to add stage lists. But none of what I said is important. This is Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Be bold and add the stage lists if you so desire. I won't remove them (unless the names are unsourced), but I can't promise others will do the same.
 * One final note, however. That last thing you said, about how if someone cares enough and all, doesn't always determine what stays in and what gets removed; trivia is a perfect example. // Decaimiento Poético  16:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And, again, that's just plain wrong. This should be a modern-day Library of Alexandria with absolutely every single bit of verifiable information under the sun.  The "notability" requirement is the single most poisonous rule on this entire site. Thanos6 17:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has guidelines and policies, as does every other site. Again, be bold and do something about it if you wish. There's nothing stopping you from saying something about all these guidelines at the village pump. // Decaimiento Poético  18:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Not Three
In the Japanese page of Wikipedia in Dragon Ball Z Sparking Meteor it says that there are only 2 Piccoros, and it´s logic too, the DB Piccoro is more young that the DBZ, and the DB don´t have Makkankosampo... maybe they can put a Transform for DB Piccoro into giant like Slug, no?...


 * Quite possible but speculation, we cant be totally sure yet. --User:Atomic Religione
 * If you're refering to ピッコロ(前期) and ピッコロ(後期), those would be Piccolo (Early) and Piccolo (Late). I believe Early Piccolo is from the very end of Dragon Ball, so it's quite possible he could be given the giant form. Don't get your hopes up, though. // Decaimiento Poético  19:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I know, it´s difficult a Giant Piccoro, but they can copy the Giant form from Slug... It´s there a link that proves there will be 3 Piccoros? because i have read but nothing... if it isn´t, we can put only 2 Piccoros like the Japanese page... Pero creo que es en vano poner 3 Piccoros, el segundo seria igual que el prmero...
 * I haven't seen proof of three Piccolos so far, so perhaps Mid Piccolo should be removed (as that's his only unconfirmed form). // Decaimiento Poético  02:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Well then remove it, we can trust more in Wikipedia Japan than nothing

Characters that weren't confirmed
Can I put a "Rumored Character" list on the page?
 * How could that possibly help the article? Please, no rumoured character lists. // Decaimiento Poético  14:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)