Talk:Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3/Archive 3

Dr. Wheelo, Fasha and Great Ape form and Tambourine confirmed
These three characters are confirmed. Not fake. 100% real. Look here --Naruto134 00:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Some Guy on the Atari Forums translated the scan. It says:

translation:

new mode and new characters on VJ !! there are details of new Ultimate Battle mode. and information of Chi-Chi (girl) the first entry!

So does this mean that Chi Chi is confirmed? Just checking, I wouldnt add it without asking here first.-SSJ Gokan 09:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * She's a bit up in the air. At the moment there's some uncertainty whether the image provided is valid.  I think we should wait on her for the moment. Thanos6 10:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well i think it a strong possiblity that see is with the db and dbgt characters coming out in this series, but lets wait for more info.

New scan, possibly confirming Chi-Chi and desert bandit Yamcha
According to a recent scan, I believe Chi-Chi has been verbally confirmed. The scan should read something close to: New mode and new characters in VJ!! There are details of a new Ultimate Battle mode!! And information of Chi-Chi (girl)'s first entry!! Since "チチ," which can be found at the end of the second to last line, reads "Chichi," she can be expected to be in the game. However, being a visual type of guy, I'm hesitant to add her. Does anyone mind lending a helping hand in trying to translate it properly? // Decaimiento Poético  15:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

He's right that V-Jump Scan says chi-chi is confirmed!! that scan is 100% unfake!!

yeaa he is rite that scan says chi-chi is in the game!! u can go to google and translate チチ and it is chi-chi

does it say whether its kid chichi or adult chichi?
 * I don't think it said. However, if this picture and the scan I posted earlier are connected, it's Kid Chi-Chi. The gameplay picture also confirmed Desert Bandit Yamcha. // Decaimiento Poético  02:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I think it just may be an alternate, though...look at his profile, that looks like adult Yamcha. Thanos6 02:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps this is Yamcha early? And I doubt there would be such a radical alt costume. Atomic Religione 03:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

i think that bandit yamcha may just be an alternate for yamcha. it looks like he has an aura surrounding him in that picture, none of the dragonball characters have auras, even kid goku and roshi who are stronger than bandit yamcha —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

It´s a new Yamcha, it´s not a costume becuase he can´t fly in Dragon Ball, he don´t have the Kame-Hame-Ha and he don´t have Sokidan! If they want a good DB saga, they have to do a Early Yamcha and a Early Krillin. For now i think we have to add Early Yamcha or something like that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

This page is not for general discussion of Tenkaichi 3. We are not a forum. --User:Atomic Religione —The preceding  signed but undated.

PAL Release Date
In Wiire.com, It Is Said That Its PAL Version Will Release Before The NTSC | U/C Version, That While The NTSC | U/C Version Will Release In November 13, While The PAL Version Will Release In 8 November. Please Check Link And See If That's Right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Character list
I know this has been asked before, but are there any new characters to be revealed, or is the list complete? --User:Atomic Religione
 * There are about five or six more characters to be revealed, if Spike is sticking to their 161 character plan. // Decaimiento Poético  19:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Yamcha desert
Ok, i believe he's an alt for story mode like many characters they switch costums goku shirts is an example, but just think of it as a designer for the game db game play would involve him in desert costum —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * I'm starting to think it's an alt as well, after having seen a clear shot of his head shot next to his health bar. // Decaimiento Poético  16:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I don´t know, if you play the first DB tournament in the story, Yamcha it´s going to have advantage because he can fly, the other will fall easily... and in that image he don´t have the scar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

DB Yamcha, and Z Yamcha hve different Hud portraits, and blast stock limits: http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/718/yamchadbup5.jpg According to ultimate-saiyan from gamefaqs, the comparison pic was posted on the Atari forums by B_Wallace.Tetra Vega 08:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * They could just fix the game up a little i mean have you check how goku go's saiyan that never hepen before —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Strange if you see that they don´t change others faces... why only Yamcha??

Character citations
Perhaps our current character table isn't the proper set-up to do such a thing, but I believe we should start citing character appearances. This will be one of the many things people will be looking for when judging articles for GA status. I don't mind taking the liberty myself, though it would be helpful if others could help as well. If some are considering to lend a hand, here are some things to keep in mind:
 * 1) If you're using a magazine scan or website for verbal or visual confirmation, provide as much information on the source as possible, meaning fill out every possible parameter in or . More parameters can be seen on the respective templates' pages (Template:Cite book and Template:Cite web).
 * 2) It is okay to cite images from a website if integrated into an article, though please try to hold off citing image galleries, like the ones seen at IGN, until no more sources can be found.
 * 3) Never use a forum or fan site to confirm characters, especially ones such as AtariCommunity.com. While they may be a good place to hang out every once in a while, they are filled with fake scans and plenty of people are bound to fall victim. Also, please avoid using video streaming sites such as youtube; see External links.

In time, we should be able to get this article to GA, and possibly FA, status. Good luck to us all. ^.~ // Decaimiento Poético  16:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Voice cast list
Can we add the voice cast list now? We know who are going to voice the characters (well we don't know about most of the new characters voices). --Naruto134 00:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Arale and Obotchamon!?
In the Wikipedia Japanese page of Dragon Ball Sparking in the list of characters of Meteor, you can read all the new chars we have and Arale and Obotchamon... what´s this? a joke?

A simple joke and is incorrect. I just recently checked the page and I saw no such thing.

It´s not incorrect, if you see in the history you will found it... don´t be so arrogant, i do that question because i see that page with that 2 characters and i don´t know if there is something about "guest" characters like Arale, after all she appear in the Anime... Next time try to say "yes, it´s a joke" or "it´s not a joke", Ok Decaimiento Poetico??
 * I didn't write that; someone else did and simply signed my name. But until it can be proven, I'm sorry to say it's a "joke" and we can't add it. // Decaimiento Poético  20:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for saying that, i didn´t know that doesn´t was you... and yes, i think it´s a joke too, but we must wait... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Reference
Ok, all the referce are crazy i can't even read the characters names, their everywhere and too many —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogjacob (talk • contribs).


 * Poetic Is working on it, stop complainng. Atomic Religione 03:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I apologize for the illegibility. I'm trying to find a new way of listing the characters, but the huge roster makes it hard to do so. // Decaimiento Poético  20:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Bido confirmed
this is a 100% real!!! pic!!! of bido confirmed
 * Nice try. // Decaimiento Poético  22:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't post fake Pictures. DBZROCKS Its over 9000!!! 22:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

God...do people ever read where they are getting these things? Atomic Religione 00:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Usually..... not DBZROCKS Its over 9000!!! 21:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Costumes?
When the time comes should we make a table for cosutmes for each character this time? I am talking about when they are all comfirmed. It could work just like the table we have now.

Goku(Mid)/ SS / Go Gi

Like that only in table form.


 * I seriously doubt it, they really arent that important. Atomic Religione 00:06, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:CRUFT. // Decaimiento Poético  01:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

2007 (UOk, I just thought that it may help the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Desert Bandit Yamcha Outfit or character...
I have just recently found some new screenshots that are partly more clearer. Now I am not very good at comparison so could someone decide if it is or not with these http://www.thewiire.com/media/228/1/Dragon_Ball_Z_Budokai_Tenkaichi_3 4.225.93.204 22:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * They look real but I could be wrong. DBZROCKS Its over 9000!!! 22:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Those look 95% real, and he does have his scars but he doesn't fly shown how he falls, im not realy sure if it new or not but i want to say yes to that though. Still not sure though —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Yes I think we can confrim Dragon Ball Yamcha from these screen shots. DBZROCKS Its over 9000!!! 00:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't see Yamcha anywhere in that link. Are you sure you're not getting Future Gohan and him confused? Future Gohan is the one fighting 17 in those screenshots. 70.153.132.155 04:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yamcha is the one fighting kid chi-chi.andrico1234 09:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I hate to be a noisy parker but those pictures where Goku, Vegeta (who fused into Gogeta afterwards), Gohan and Gotenks and fighting Buu, Broly and Janemba, that's the main intro, right? Super Saiyan Crash 7:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The new format
I hate the new format. It's too long and it was better the way it was. --Naruto134 00:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've reformated the list again, reverting to the original format though with only two columns rather than three. Hopefully people take more kindly to this format. // Decaimiento Poético  15:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks better than the old format. It's alright. --Naruto134 00:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I still think new characters should have a seperate section, like in the DBZ:BT2 article. DBZROCKS Its over 9000!!! 20:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

T rating
http://www.atari.com/us/games/dbz_budokai_tenkaichi3/playstation2 Blackman34 17:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Additional Transformations
Who submited that Super Trunks was added? I do not remember this confirmation... On Trunks in armor it says Trunks(Base,Super Saiyan, Super Trunks, and Super Trunks 2


 * I did. I thought that most of the transformations that the characters had like Hildegarn Base Form would make a appearance. Anyway the real Super Trunks is the form Trunks used to fight Semi-Perfect Cell while the Super Trunks 2 form is the one he used to fight Perfect Cell. Anyway theres still not of lot of information so I just thought I add it anyway.


 * I have reverted what you put due to it being incorrect. In the game the form you speak of is called Super Trunks. I don't agree with the name but that is what the game is calling it and so that is the name that is going in the article.  DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  21:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


 * So do you have any information about the Hildegarn Bars and Super Trunks forms? They would be a great addition to the game.
 * We've always had "Super Trunks." Super Trunks 2 has never been present, and adding him would be original research. Also, Hildegarn's base form was never shown either, and since there are no more transformation slots left, we can be sure they won't be added (unless Spike has a trick up their sleeve, which I doubt). // Decaimiento Poético  01:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I concur fitting truks up one's sleaves is quite hard. (I know it was a mistake i am just a ass ^^) Atomic Religione 01:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Desert bandit Yamcha
Ok, i don't even want yamcha as 2 characters, but their is proff above and we can easily see that it a new yamcha because he's not able to fly, now if you have REAL proof that he's not a seperate character but a new outfit give us proof.
 * Screen shots are horrible ways of "proving" characters can't fly simply because there's no motion involved and you cannot see them fall like you can in the videos. At any rate, if you want proof, so be it. He's clearly seen flying here, as well as having an aura. Other than that, no more information about Desert Bandit Yamcha (or Yamcha in general) has been released. // Decaimiento Poético  01:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Well here it shows him falling here like others in a the game who do not fly76.223.226.231 02:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it's an alt. Chi-Chi took off her axe thing that probally caused Yamcha to fall. --Naruto134 00:00 23 August 2007 (UTC)

When you are flying and you was hitted by an attack, you don´t fall, you do a spin and goes again to the battle, Yamcha is falling in the same place like DB chars... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

To end this arguement once and for all. look at the DB yamchas face picture (next to his life bar) and compare it to the DBZ yamchas face pic. if its different then it is different characters. I dont know how 2 do links.andrico1234 11:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * At this point whe can assume that he is an alternate coustume. here he is shown flying and having an aura, which Desert bandit Yamcha would not be able to do because he had not learned how to fly at that time. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  12:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

ice shenron?
I refise his to be an alt costume! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3_ma2nBugg--24.61.58.81 18:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your URL doesn't work, and I'm not quiet sure I understand what you're saying. However, I did see a video with "Eis Shenron" fighting GT Kid Goku, the title referring to the former as an alternate costume of Nuova. I also read a German information sheet with the same information. Until he is proven to be a separate character, he's simply an alt and shouldn't be listed here. // Decaimiento Poético  18:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

wait u right after seeing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0QGcUxIvc --24.61.58.81 18:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

super saiyan 4 goku
while watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0QGcUxIvc i noteced that ss4 goku was under gt kid goku's transformation set so i think he should be put under gt kid gokus transformations on the charector table (81.159.44.16 19:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC))

sorry now that i think about it ss4 goku is not a new charector so he should be in the old charector table too

Correct!! Super Sayain 1,2,3, 4 and Gogeta Just add the transformations for GT Kid Goku

It's transformations not characters!!

there is no super sayian 276.221.223.250 20:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Desert Bandit Yamcha
Desert yamcha is a new character because the pic in the bar is different if not it would have the same face compare the two fotos of regular yamcha and desert

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/718/yamchadbup5.jpg
 * If you were to face Piccolo against another Piccolo and looked at the health bars, the pictures would be different. This has been discussed to death; please let it die. // Decaimiento Poético  20:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Ima Put yamcha in the right side and put 2 different pics —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

new format and ssj4 goku
the new format is difficult to understand. Also ssj 4 goku should be listed as transformation of gt kid goku but not ssj2. 76.221.223.250 20:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Difficult to understand? I can read it just fine... Atomic Religione 23:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


 * It was changed back 76.221.223.250 00:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The entire section actually hasn't changed at all since you posted this topic. In fact, I don't think the page itself changed at all since a day or two ago. // Decaimiento Poético  00:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes it has. Don't speak to me like i"m an idiot. The character section's format was completly different earlier today. 76.221.223.250 01:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see this diff. This has been the format since 11 am (where I live, anyway) yesterday. At any rate, this is unimportant; the only thing I should have replied to was the SS4 comment, which has been moved to GT Kid Goku. // Decaimiento Poético  01:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

GT Kid Goku never went SSJ 2. I watched every episode of GT just to see this fact. Gohan and Vegeta don't either. Ryu-chan 17:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Eis Shenron is Nuova's alt
Eis is not in the game just to tell you guys. Here is video of what appears to be Eis, but if you look at the title, it says that Eis is an alt for Nuova Shenron. I'm just telling you guys so you don't think he's a new character or add him as a new character. --Naruto134 00:00, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting us know. :) // Decaimiento Poético  01:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

new trailer
check out this new trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtKuVIeBcE it shows some of the new things that are in the game —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Jeez dude what are you doing up so early (5:52 where i am), thanks for sharing with us. Atomic Religione 10:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

it's not early here im in england(81.159.44.16 11:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC))

that seals that the yamcha jumpoff is alt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

GT kid Goku SSJ4
Should there be a way to indicate that SSJ4 is a returning form for a new character? 70.181.3.229 05:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

General Blue confirmed!
It´s not a joke, it´s serious! only search in the Grupal image in the new Trailer and you´ll see him!. --Argentine Man-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * No he isn't. I have a clear fullscreen version, and no new characters are in the group pic. Only the BT2(including PAL Wii characters), and the recently confirmed characters are.Tetra Vega 06:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you a link to that image fullscreen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * Ok, don´t have fullscreen? only see the right hand of Goku, there is Kid Chi Chi and down is a blonde character that is not a Super Saiyan... How many blonde characters are in DB (No Saiyas and no 18, she is in that Image)?? --Argentine Man-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * Mind posting a link to the video? I'm kind of skeptical about all this, and so far have seen no one but you talk about it on any of the sites I go on. // Decaimiento Poético  23:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll do ya one better Poetico! Here is a forum with a pic of the vid.(Note: The Topic of this forum is not about General Blue.) On a similar note, if it isn't General Blue please say who it is. I cannot make it out. Here ya go! http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605338 4.225.90.93 23:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no one but (all around Goku's right fist, his left from our point of view) Spopovich, Kid Chi-Chi, Pilaf Robot (Combined), and Raditz. You might be confusing Kid Chi-Chi's legs and/or Spopovich's shoulder as a character. // Decaimiento Poético  23:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Poetico. Since you said that I can see now that Spopovuch's muscle shoulder and Kid Chi-Chi's legs make a non character face. Thanks for the clear up. NO General Blue as of yet.4.225.90.93 23:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I was joked, sorry for the confusion, in the small video image i see a Blonde Characters, now i see... is only Spopovich... The small image have a part of the background that separates Spopovich and his muscle, and for that reason i was thinking he was a new char... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Wii characters
what are the odds that all the wii characters such as piccolo dimao and pilaf will be in the ps2 version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * 99.999999999999999999999999999%. Thanos6 18:46, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * They're verbally confirmed to be in all versions. // Decaimiento Poético  23:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Strange transformations
Erm... why did Vegito has SSJ3 on the character list. He didn't make it to that level. As wlel as SS3 and 4 Gohan, LSS3 and LSS4 Broly, SS2 Kid Trunks and SS3 Vegeta. I think someone is messing with us, and it's not me. Super Saiyan Crash 19:41, August 25 2007 (UTC)
 * It's just vandalism. // Decaimiento Poético  23:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Transformations
Shouldn't Cell's 3rd transformation be labeled perfect form and as I asked before shouldn't there be a way of labeling SSJ4 Goku as a returning transformation for a new character, GT Kid Goku.70.181.3.229 22:42, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If the official Japanese site is anything to go by, it's called 3rd Form. As for SS4 Goku, no comment at the moment. I'll come up with something if I'm not beaten to it. // Decaimiento Poético  01:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Super Trunks 2
Isn't Super Trunks 2 USS? He has Super Trunks, but that is SS Stage 2.UltimaFighter 17:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * USS (Ultra Super Sayain) is a fan term and is not officialy recognized. It is instead Super sayian 3rd grade, but can also be reffered to as super trunks 2 when used by trunks. The name that really matters though,is the one used in game which, even though it isn't really super trunks as it has the characteristics of super trunks 2 or ssj 3rd grade, is reffered to as super trunks, So i believe super trunks would be the appropriate name in the character section. 70.181.3.229 17:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually USS is Super Saiyan 2nd Grade, USS2 (Trunks' big form) is Super Saiyan 3rd Grade.Tetra Vega 19:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No that is incorrect check the article on SSJ for the proper answer. 70.181.3.229 20:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey has the real SUper Trunks been confirmed yet? Somebody should answer. Johnny542 19:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Ascended, and Ultra were both used to describe both USSJ1(SSJ 2nd Grade), and USSJ2(SSJ 3rd Grade). The SSJ page is off on a few points from what I've always known.Tetra Vega 22:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Its a fan term therefor not only does it not matter also anyone can hear it and as a result confuse themselves and others about its true meaning. 76.230.153.88 05:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Long-Haired Trunks Confirmed ?
I could have sworn I seen the Movie Version of Trunks in this new trailer video of BT3 on Here. He was in :30 in the background along with all the other characters in his Super Saiyan form. He was above Andriod 17 and 18's heads. Johnny542 21:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

That's Gogeta, not Trunks. If anything it'll be an alt costume.Tetra Vega 22:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

General Blue Confirmed
In the new trailer it shows a picture of a group of characters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWtKuVIeBcE
 * I knew i saw general blue in the backround net to SS4 Gokuu —Preceding

unsigned comment added by 74.186.15.4 (talk) 23:48, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see . As far as I've seen, Blue is not in that video. // Decaimiento Poético  00:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)