Talk:Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3/Archive 4

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I quote:

"Their will be "What-if" fusions in this game from http://www.wii-volution.com/wii-news/exclusive-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-interview.html"

"Their" should be "there". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.1.135 (talk) 18:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Bad citing and bad grammer, someone should fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.210.203 (talk) 20:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

59.167.11.39 12:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC) Griffith (by the way, I was the one who made both those comments, but ah, it seems that what I mentioned has been fixed, so ignore this.)

Z Point System
the level up system has been removed and i think it should be on the new feature thing here is the confirmation http://www.wii-volution.com/wii-news/exclusive-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-interview.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.132.177 (talk) 15:19, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

General Blue Confirmed!!!!!!!!
I saw general blue in the new jap. trailer in www.youtube.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.186.15.4 (talk) 19:53, August 27, 2007 (UTC)


 * C'mon people. There are now 3 of these topics. General Blue is not yet confirmed and it is just Chi-Chi's legs and Spopovich's shoulder muscle. Sorry for being so angry, I am just kind of mad about this false hope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.225.91.60 (talk) 20:10, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

What-if fusions?
I know that you should never trust forums all of the time, but I read on the atari forums that there will be more fusions and what-if fusions. Is this true...? Has anyone else heard of this? Here is the forum. http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606540 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.225.91.60 (talk) 20:04, August 27, 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's real, to be honest. I posted a comment on the thread (Szayel Aporro, comment #30 if you're wondering) asking where these people heard of such information, and I've yet to get a response. // Decaimiento Poético  22:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Also some are wondering if these what-ifs are going to take up the remaining slots. And are you wanting the interview? I have the link right here...

http://www.wii-volution.com/wii-news/exclusive-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-interview.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.224.207.197 (talk) 22:26, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Just change it!!!
Okay... Go back to DBZ Budokai. Under Trunks' transformations he has Super Trunks and Super Trunks 2. If you noticed, people call Super Trunks 2 SS 3rd grade or USS. And Trunks doesn't have SS 2nd Grade in the game. He used 3rd grade against Perfect Cell. Also, look at these:

"Super Trunks" as you call it

Also Super Trunks 2

Notice the similarity? So, it'd make more sense if "Super Trunks" was labeled "Super Trunks 2," because there is a difference. UltimaFighter
 * It doesn't matter what the Budokai games call him, nor fans, nor anything like that. What matters is Tenkaichi 3 itself, and so far the only name released for the form is Super Trunks. // Decaimiento Poético  22:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactally, unless you have proof that the game calls Super Trunks something else it will stay what it is now. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  22:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Both those pictures are USSJ2(SSJ 3rd grade) Trunks.Tetra Vega 21:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually the second one is USSJ2 Trunks. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  21:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't mean a thing. It's true that in Budokai, they had Super Trunks and Super Trunks 2. But in each Tenkaichi game, Super Saiyan 3rd Grade was refered too as Super Trunks. Unless they add Super Saiyan 2nd Grade (and I honestly hope they do), and give it the name Super Trunks, we can't change it. We have to have to name of each character in that game. End of discussion. Ryu-chan 21:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, I think the creators should because if they don't, they really will be cheap. The Real Super Trunks was used to fight Semi-Perfect Cell. How hard is it just to add a another form for Trunks (armor)? For now there is not of info but we have to wait. Also when are Hildegarn's Base form, Bio-Broly, Andriod 14 and 15 and the Ice Shenron going to be announced? Johnny542 12:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Well... They obviously know it exists because they mentioned it in the first game's encyclopedia. They translated it as Super Saiyan stage 2 and 3 though. Ryu-chan (Talk) 17:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Then why didn't they put it in in the previous games? Johnny542 18:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Non-playable characters
I do think their should be a non-playable character section for all the characters hiddin is some characters moves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.210.203 (talk) 00:19, August 29, 2007 (UTC)


 * No its a waste of space, and probably considered Cruft. Atomic Religione 00:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can give me one reason why adding a non-playable character list would be benificial, it will not be added. It's simply cruft (yes, there is such a thing on Wikipedia) and game guide material. // Decaimiento Poético  02:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It be good if you added Pu Pu and Yakon to the Non-Playable section. They not playable and are still used in the game. Also I heard Dende would be one of the background characters. Johnny542 12:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The Wii-vollution interview discussion
http://www.wii-volution.com/wii-news/exclusive-dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-interview.html Some of the info has been added already, but there are a couple points that should be discussed.
 * 1: They apparently are adding what-if fusions or never before seen fusions.
 * 2: Z Point system. You don't level up, you gain the ability to use more Z-Items. Tetra Vega 02:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd REALLY like to beleive this, but can it be trusted? Atomic Religione 02:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think so. I mean, it's impossible to see a what-if fusion liike SSJ4 Vegito. We have to just wait and see, but I think it may be impossible. Super Saiyan Crash 8:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * They did what if fusions back in Budokai 2. Remember the Yamcha/Tenshinhan fusion? Thanos6 09:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe the Z-Point System, they are trying to make it a little like Budokai 3 and Budokai Tenkaichi 1 and 2 altogther. Johnny542 12:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The controller
I know this shouldnt be discussed here but on the wii would the controllers be on the remote/nunchuck or the classic controller, because im not sure if i should buy thge classic controller.andrico1234 13:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

IIRC, you could use either for BT2, so I'd assume you could use either for BT3 aswell.Tetra Vega 19:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

GT GOKU
Is there a new GT Goku character or is it just a custom for late Goku?

The new video in Tenkaichi 3 official website shows GT Goku SS3 (Adult) at 00.45 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.161.90.237 (talk) 17:55, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

That's Z Goku's end of Z blue gi, it's one of Late Goku's alt. costumes. GT Goku's gi has a blue top, and orange pants.Tetra Vega 19:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Just for reference, Is this alt all Blue? Or does it have a blue top and orange pants? Because I just want to clarify. 4.225.93.215 20:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It's all blue. Ryu-chan 20:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDGyfFD-C4o is the recent trailer. When it came out, I posted a timeline of various costumes/stages shown for easy reference.Tetra Vega 21:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Problems
I have seen some unofficial info on the character list, Great Ape Kid Gohan? I have seen no confirmation of that... Also why did someone saw that there will be what-if fusions and then put the site? They should have just referenced it. Plus with some research I have came to the conclusion that Ryo may have not meant characters but sceanarios. Like Zarbon and Raditz in the previous game. So it should be removed until another scan or more information. So please revise this and see if you all agree.4.225.88.30 15:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The Big List
I don't know how the list of characters was organized, but shouldn't it be alphabetical? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MysticGohan (talk • contribs) 03:06, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

The returning characters are in the order they were on BT2's character select screen.Tetra Vega 05:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Piccolo(Early) Transformation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAFabJAt5_c It is unknown what it is now but it may be his giant form or his fusion with Nail so please further investigate.4.225.5.146 17:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm I would not know, I am not familliar wiht that language. Atomic Religione 17:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Kinda looks like Giant Namesh or H something.Tetra Vega 20:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

if you read the comments on the site some one said it was german for "full power" (81.159.44.16 10:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

Yeah, you'd think it would've had an R3 icon if it was a transformation. I used to think it was Bojack's movelist both times, because that G something move was in the same place as Bojack's Galactic Buster.Tetra Vega 17:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

notice that player 2 was paused >.> --24.61.58.81 18:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

So I was right, it was Bojack's movelist both times. It's Grand Smasher, Bojack's move I thought was Giant N/H something.Tetra Vega 05:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It's Bojacks transformation, it was Player 2's pause and Bojack's movelist and Bojack was the one that transformed during the video not Piccolo. DBZROCKS  Its over 9000!!!  12:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Returning Characters editing
I put all the names in alphabetical oder so it looks much more organized. Qelery 13:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What was the point of that? It was fine the way it was.Tetra Vega 20:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I did it so people can navigate easier. For example, if a person wants to check if DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has Pikkon, Syn Shenron and Andoid 13...they would scroll to the P's the S's and A's to find those names rather than searching through 81 names in random order. Qelery 13:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Might as well alphabetize all the other pages too then. They're listed in the order they appeared on the character select screen. Not trying to start anything, it just seems wierd to this way, imo.Tetra Vega 17:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactally the pages where like this for a reason, alphabetizing this list seems odd. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  11:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Images
We really need more images here, there are only 2 as of this writing. Can someone do an image search for some images for the article? DBZROCKS  Its over 9000!!!  12:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * At this point, more images would seem rather decorative. There's nothing we should illustrate (meaning nothing we can't easily explain) at this point, and there's really not a lot of room to put another image in the first place. Feel free to upload some of your own and add them, but don't be surprised if they get removed and deleted. // Decaimiento Poético  18:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe a image of some of the other new features? Its not completely needed but it would be a good edition, though the hard part would be tracking down such an image. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  20:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Namu, Akkuman, #8 confirmed.
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608736

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/7812948020070906171907.jpg

I added them to the list, but I don't know how to add refrences. <_<--Takuy 15:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The scans don't seem to have page numbers, but we can use the image itself as a source until page numbers are given. // Decaimiento Poético  18:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the new characters up. We got 18 so we need 2 more new characters right? Super Saiyan Crash 08:23 7 Septemeber 2007 (UTC).

No, there are still more like the what-if fusions. Johnny542 15:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

do you think the what-if fusions will be gokule and teincha again (81.159.44.16 16:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC))

We dont know, this isnt the place to ask. Atomic Religione 18:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering the rumored characters plus the what-if fusions, I just saying there might be more characters yet to be revealed. Johnny542 18:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

2 more characters
So, is their only 2 more, and do the earlys count as new —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.202.247 (talk) 02:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * hey i just did a count and so far ther are 156 characters so there should be 5 more new characters becouse you said that all the new characters and forms will add to the 161 character total(81.159.44.16 08:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC))
 * There are 159 characters confirmed and Early Goku/Piccolo and Mid Goku count as new characters (hence why they're in the new charcter section). Please stop asking this question, as it's rather forum-ish. // Decaimiento Poético  13:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

is it reall true 2 more that sux! are u sure there onlt 2 left? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.54.159.159 (talk) 06:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * soory but that brings me too this point, should we have on the new characters section like 2 unknown characters or just wait. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.202.247 (talk) 13:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

french rumor: more than 161 characters are possible
"Translated: As you all know it, a number of a total of 161 characters had been announced in a number of magazine. But this number is to be taken, from now on, largely with the conditional one, as it were the case for Tenkaichi 2.

Indeed, a number also had been announced then, but which with final had been exceeded. If one takes into account that there are 161 characters and that we have from now on 159 revealed, there would thus remain nothing any more but 2 characters to be discovered. One suspects well that there will be blow of it more, because not only, according to Ryo Mito, of the new characters will be in the play, like fusions ever seen (if it does not lie us), but yesterday, on the American forum of DBZ BT3, Ciel (the equivalent one of our French Atari-TEAM), on the topic where one posted the scans, gave an index according to which one of the characters which was quoted by the posteurs of the topic would be in the play.

Moreover, on our French forum Atari, the forumor Unreal_Jugernaut drew up the list of the characters who were quoted by the forumeurs before Ciel does not leave its message, of which here the list:

Krillin DB Goten WP Vegeta WP Tenshinhan DB Murasaki Adjutant black General Rild LanFan Kamisama" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.90.102 (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This is why it says in the article "roughly 160 characters."71.58.16.108 15:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The character roster has been expected to go over 161 ever since Ryo's mention of what-if fusions. However, there's a difference between Ryo's statement and the French rumours: Ryo's statement can actually be seen as verifiable (this is not necessarily the same as the truth), whereas the French rumour is simply that.
 * Also, I don't see your point here. Is this supposed to help the article? If not, then this topic should be removed. Wikipedia is not a forum. // Decaimiento Poético  15:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Adult Goten Possibly Confirmed
I was on youtube looking up DBZ:BT3 videos and I swear to God, it says here at the bottom by somebody [] that Adult Goten from GT is confirmed. I'm am not sure if this is true or not but however wrote this ever pre-ordered the game somewhere in Japan or anywhere else or is lying. Either way, I just going to put Goten as a possible new character. All the other info that this guy said was true so maybe it is true. Johnny542 20:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see anything in that trailer (or in the comments) that even remotely hints at GT Goten, I'm removing him from the list until we can get some real proof. And plus, that whole video is fan made. --Jarvisganon 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I expected better from you Johnny - -, you know that we cant add anything without offfiicial confrimation. Atomic Religione 16:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just thought that it might count, my bad dude. Johnny542 12:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Ice Shenron Confirmed
In this video you can see to Ice Shenron: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ENCp_W7SeZk&mode=related&search=
 * No you can't that is Nuova Shenron's second color. I can tell because he shots a fire ball. Case closed. DBZROCKS   Its over 9000!!!  12:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah its just his alternative costume, just stop adding him. Until we get real proof that Eis Shernon is in the game, like if there was something like him that shot a iceball from his hands, lol, just don't add him. Johnny542 12:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

More comfrimed characters
Not new characters but more old characters had reappeared in the character section on the Sparking Neo website (such as Wheelo, 13, Broly, Turles, Slug, Cooler, blah, blah, blab) Should we do the same thing like we did to Goku and the others? Super Saiyan Crash 18:47 11 September 2007 (UTC).

do you mean sorce them —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.202.247 (talk) 20:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that's right. Super Saiyan Crash 12:48 12 September 2007 (UTC)