Talk:Dragon Ball Z Gaiden: Saiyajin Zetsumetsu Keikaku (Visual Guide)

It IS an OVA
Saying that "Plan to destroy the Saiyajin" is video-game footage is as wrong as saying the entire DBZ series is not an anime but video-game footage from DBZ Budokai.

An OVA is an anime specifically made for the video market, which won't be shown on TV nor in the cinemas, only released in VHS/LD/DVD.

"Plan..." was released in VHS in August 1993 and was never shown on TV nor in the cinemas.

The Playdia video-game, wich used footage from this OVA, was released in August 1994, a year later.

Now... How could "Plan..." possibly be "videogame footage" if the videogame wasn't released until a year after the release of the anime on VHS ?

As I said, in this case, the entire DBZ series could as well be labelled video game footage for the Budokai games, instead of being a TV series...

Moreover, and that's the final point, "Plan..." appears, in an official listing of OVAs made by Tôei Animation in the 1990s (in the 1993 section) : http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/ov1990.html

It's an OVA. Period.

By the way, the Daizex website was quite wrong on this one. Well, I suspect they realized they were mistaken at first, but simply refused to admit it.

Folken de Fanel 10:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Could you provide a translation of some sort? Not only can I (or the average English speaker) not read Japanese, but I cant even get the characters to display as anything more than "??????". Also, I always thought they referred to it as an "OVG" or Official Game Guide? I also think the issue is touchy. I mean, Folken you have a point in that it fits the basic criteria. But OVA's are high-quality big budget productions. "Plan" not so much. It is, essentially, anime cutscenes made to go with an NES game. If the anime cutscenes in, say, Chrono Trigger were put on a disc for sale, it would not an OVA make. They actually do sell DVDs of cinema sequences from games like Final Fantasy and Xenosaga, and these aren't credited as OVA's. Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence has a bonus disc where the game's cinematics are stitched together with some explanatory dialogue and gameplay to make a movie that can serve as a walkthrough. A videogame can serve as a format for OVA. "The Day of Sigma" in Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X is an OVA. However, the ensuing cinematics (or the anime work done for MMX3 and 4 or MM8 that directly corresponds to the game) are not. I don't know...it's a tricky subject, and I could see it either way...
 * One last thing though. "As I said, in this case, the entire DBZ series could as well be labelled video game footage for the Budokai games, instead of being a TV series." That's a very flawed comparison.The Budokai series is based on the anime, wheras "Plan" is based on a Famicom game. If we're talking about what is based on what, the two examples are exact opposites of each other. Furthermore, the only Budokai game to even have in-game cutscenes was B1, and those were just recreation pieces from the series (whereas "Plan" is recreation scenes from the game). Apples and oranges here.Onikage725


 * First, if you can't display the japanese characters, check this page : Help:Japanese
 * As for the translations, it basically says "The OVA from the 1990's", and then there a list of OVA titles, by date. Go to 1993年8月 (August 1993) and you'll find the DBZ Gaiden.


 * "OVG" or Official Game Guide, is only a fan-designation. Officially, it's an OVA.


 * Big budget is one of the possible characteristics of an OVA, however it is not the same for every OVA. They can be of any length and of any budget. The common point, what give these anime the name of OVA, is they way of distribution (video-only). There are even OVAs which were first shown on TV. If they were produced by the animation studio as OVAs, they remain OVAs.


 * DBZ Gaiden is an entirely new production. Combined together cut-scenes of a video games are not new productions.


 * Anyway, even animated sequences from video games can be considered as OVA, since it's still a video format.


 * And no, that's a relevant comparison. Some people want to say "Plan" is video-game footage because it was inspired by a video game, thus following their logic, DBZ isn't a TV series but a video game, since it was featured in video games.
 * Well, if you prefer, that would be like saying the Budokai games are anime, because they're inspired by an anime. Folken de Fanel 18:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that second way would make more sense (it's a chicken or the egg sort of deal I suppose). However, if Toei's page says OVA, I s'pose it would be out of our hands either way. Onikage725

hold on
goku said "his power MIGHT be greater than broly" not that it was, so saying that is is is wrong. i'm going to change it so its correct —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.0.151.131 (talk) 12:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

I think the article is confusing timelines.
Wait King kai said that the saiyans and Tuffles lived together on the planet, the Saiyans in the wastelands, the tuffles in their cities. I think that the article writer was using the GT timeline and not the DBZ timeline. because in the DBGT timeline things are diffrent. The planet is showed being blue, not red and it had no rings like it did in DBZ.

this article also uses coola instead of cooler or kooler.

Also The Tuffles did not make their apperance in GT, they made it in ZYami 20:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)