Talk:Dragon Quest VIII/Archive 1

Clean Up
Okay, I know everyone did a lot of work this article. But it seems like we have to much information so we need to cut off what is not needed. So any suggestion in order to get that mark off the article?--Link25 09:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The Lord High Priest And Abbot Francisco
This page is wrong about how LHP and Francisco died. LHP was murderd by Marchello while Francisco died a matyred death when thinking that the godess would protect him used his own body to shield Trode to save him from being gored only to gored himself.

I have no argument about that. If the change is needed then go ahead. I beleive that face must be altered. --Link25 10:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't write very often so not only am I prone to spell words incorectly but I'm also lowsy at writing things such as reviews and reports. But if anyone wants me to, I can note the mistakes, correct them and then someone could change the review using those notes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.184.58.66 (talk • contribs).

Moving the chracters?
Most of the page is made of up of the chracters in the game. While I am happy that there has been so much progress in this department, it's pretty much the only thing that has ben worked on. I think we should move the chracters to their own page and work on more general information on the game itself.--Link25 08:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, i just did this NapoleonicStudent 06:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I did a COMPLETE revision of the characters
This is what I did:

1) I moved all the character info to a new page,.

2) I left short character info on the main page for only those characters who are introduced at the beginning of the game.

I did this because:

a) Having the complete character bios on the Dragon Quest VIII wikipedia page essentially SPOILS every major surprise of the game.

b) It cleans up and shortens the article.

NapoleonicStudent 06:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

quick question
the skeleton enemies - are they in any other DQ game than the first and the eigth? awesome inclusion of the shadow skeleton enemy, too.-Nod 03:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah they appear in other games, while I can't name them on the top of my head, eight and one are not the only cameos for them. --Link25 21:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Classic Skeleton sprites also appear in DQ IV. Whatocean 11:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Title
Shouldn't this article be at Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King since that is the correct title? TJ Spyke 23:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It could be. -- ReyBrujo 23:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I mean, there are articles like Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, but most times you would want the article in the most common name. In example, people are more likely to type Dragon Quest VIII than the full title. -- ReyBrujo 23:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * If the page was moved, "Dragon Quest VIII" would automatically redirect to the correct page. Is there any objection to moving it? TJ Spyke 23:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers in the character page
Hey guys. I don't know about you, but I hate spoilers. And that "List of DQ VIII characters" article is very cool and provides insight to all our favorite characters, but I think the details of the marriage at the end of the game need to go. I know, it's part of the Hero and Medea's character histories. But there are quite a few links to this spoiler-filled page, mostly made by me. I'd relish in the fact that a person who'd want to discover more about the game would learn through the character bios. But I don't want any newbies to be spoiled about the game's ending. I propose a separate area for the details of epilogue. We don't have to abolish the info completely, but we should take it out of the character bios where people can be spoiled. I'll do the work. Just tell me what you think. I'll wait about 10 days. -- Whatocean 10:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Eh, you know what? Never mind. Every other video game character list spoils anyway. -- Whatocean 14:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Monster Arena
Surely a bit more on the Monster Arena is required, or at least a character biography for Morrie. Has anyone else noticed that Morrie is a reference to Mario? For instance, not only does he speak with an Italian accent, he is referred to by a bartender at the arena as Super Morrie-O. Is that just too pointless to include? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Surlysearle (talk • contribs).

LOL, that's genius! I think I might get to a section on the Monster Arena.

--- Whatocean 10:22, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


 * While the italian accent was used in the translation, the original one was an eccentric who used english words in every phrase. If a reference to Mario at all, that'd be only on the localization. Icecypher 00:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Other Dragon Quest games on Wiki
Hello, guys. Since this is the Dragon Quest page with the most activity I thought I could ask this here. The rest of the Dragon Quest games need help so their articles can grow, and not only that, but also have sources referenced in their articles. Help in those pages will be really appreciated, since you'll be showing love to the series that spawned this game. Thanks in advance. Icecypher 21:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack
I bought the soundtrack, and the tunes are from the original japanese verison (not orchestrated) and there is much more tracks than stated (23 for the first disc, 40 for the second disc). I'd like to know if the list here on the page is from another soundtrack involving the orchestrated version (like in the NA/PAL version).85.2.38.163 20:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

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Question about two formerly-used images
Image:Dq8alchemy.jpg and Image:Dq8battle.jpg - are these needed? They are currently not used in the article, and if they remain unused, they will likely be deleted (as non-free content is not to remain unused, see WP:NFCC for details). --Iamunknown 06:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Since theyre not being used, i guess we dont need them right now. Besides, if they get deleted, we can always just find replacements if we decide we do in fact need them.  Evaunit  666 01:12, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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dragon quest- journey of the cursed king
CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO ADD MONSTERS TO MY TEAM...I HAVE SEARCHED ALLT EH WEBSITES BUT NO SIGN OF AN ANSWER ON ANY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.96.213.109 (talk) 17:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * you might wanna try gamefaqs one more time. Evaunit ♥666♥ 03:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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differences between sountracks
shouldnt the article say that the japanese version has digital sountrack while the western version has orchestrated music? i didnt find that on the article...--Jim88Argentina (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * if you can source it, feel free to add it in. Evaunit ♥666♥ 01:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Major Changes
I've removed some images and updated the page a little.Hope that helps. User:Agent008 20th April 2008,05:31 PM.
 * Nice job with all that story info! Though, it might actually be too long (Wikipedia doesn't like a lot "video game cruft"). I'm not saying get rid of it, but it might look better if the huge piles of text were broken up with some pictures. References also help, especially in a story section. That makes an article look really professional. : ) Evaunit ♥666♥ 02:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the praise Evaunit666;and it may need cropping as it is rather large the plot line.I don't really care if anyone shortens the plot as long as they keep certain parts of the storyline in to keep the plot's shape in order.User:Agent008,4th May 2008 AD;10:42 PM. —Preceding comment was added at 21:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you know the sabrecats a familiar resemblance to the Pokemon Raikou in someways.User:Agent008 —Preceding comment was added at 22:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hasn't the sabrecat sprite been around longer than Raikou? Evaunit ♥666♥ 00:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they've been around since Dragon Quest V. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yangus
According to the Japanese article, he refers to the hero as "aniki" (roughly "older brother") and Trode as "otsu-san" (roughly "mister strange" according to the Japanese-English dictionary I'm using, and "the old boy" according to babelfish) in the Japanese version. I couldn't find anything about his catch phrase. Does anyone have a citeable source for his catchphrase or nicknames for the hero and Trode in the Japanese version? -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Marta
"It is never explained why she was the holder of the bloodline and not her biological son." I think that sentence should be removed. It's like saying why Jessica isn't an heir when she and Alistair are siblings. Leopold even says, "I smell Sage's blood, but he is not the one." when the group is cornered by wolves.

It's never explained why Alistair is heir and Jessica isn't either. It just may be arbitrary. The last person in the legacy to retain the chromosomes of a sage??? Nah, I don't want to go into heredity and genealogy. It gets confusing.

--- Whatocean 10:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it KIND-OF explains why marta's the sage. It's because her son(name escapes me), rejected his traditional place by going to orktusk to help the people by directly becoming village doctor, instead of guarding the family shrine.

Alistair is the sage simply because he's the older one, therefore making his heir the next sage instead of jessica(but he has no heir) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.18.1 (talk) 02:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

refrences to other dragon quest games
(spoiler) i noticed that at the end of the game, the godbird emppyrea reveals her name as ramia(the giant bird who helps the hero of dq 3)

anyone find any other refrences? I know morrie also referrs to previous dq heroes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.18.1 (talk) 02:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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the story and the spoils
I was going to simplify the story to a simple plot, but I want to discuss this on why it should have so much spoiling info? The Dragovian part was very spoiling that I had the urge to remove it (even most game guides don't mention the Dragovian Trial). Also in much of the way, it does interfere with WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines.-- F-22 Raptor IV 00:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Read the spoiler policy, plot details which are considered spoilers shouldn't be treated any differently than plot details which are not considered spoilers. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 08:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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