Talk:Dragoon (Final Fantasy)

High/Super Jump Enmity
High and Super Jump only remove enmity from the DRG, they do not transfer it to other party members or the wyvern as is said in the article. Just gonna fix that up.. feba 08:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Cid Highwind
It seems that by including Final Fantasy VII's Cid Highwind in our list of Dragon Knight-esque characters that we're setting our bar of entry wayyy too low: Cid wields a spear, but is in no other respects similar to a Dragon Knight. He doesn't look like one, he is never referred to as one, and has none of the Dragon Knight's signature attacks. Edgar (who was removed by the same person who added Cid) is arguably more like a Dragon Knight, because at least he can be equipped with an item that gives him the signature "jump" move. – Seancdaug 13:14, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Y'know, disregard all this. I completely forgot about Cid's limit breaks. Shame on me. – Seancdaug 13:16, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

Kain Highwind
Kain Highwind of FFIV isn't just someone who can be 'categorised as a dragon knight type character', he is explicitly an actual Dragon Knight, he is referred to as a Dragon Knight on several occasions in in-game diologue, his character class is explicitly stated as Dragon Knight on the status screen and he wears the same type of outfit as the Dragon Knights of FF3, FF5, FFT and FFTA.
 * True, but the same thing is true of Freya from Final Fantasy IV. The line in question is trying to convey this fact without confusing the class/job system idea, but I guess it's not as effective in that as I'd hoped. I'll rephrase it to see if I can clear it up. – Seancdaug 12:59, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Cyan Garamonde?
I'd like to add Cyan Garamonde to the list of characters possibly inspired by the Dragon Knight job. I realize that he doesn't use spears and is more of a generic Knight than anything else, and also that FFVI doesn't have explicit character classes, but as a character he has some ties to Dragoons. His personality is somewhat in line with that of Freya or Kain--he fits the "aloof Knight" archetype that's obviously followed by Freya and Fratley, questionably followed by Kain (whose susceptibility to mind control tends to set him at odds with his friends in a way that really doesn't fit exactly with the archetype), and arguably followed by Kimahri and Cid (the former is silent, the latter hides beneath his gruff exterior). The thing that really tips it for me, at least, is Empowerer. I know it's silly to base this sort of classification on little more than one skill, but I'd at least like to mention that Cyan is FFVI's entry into that sort of archetype, in the same way that Locke is a Thief, Sabin is a Monk, and Mog is a Dancer, even if they're each not explicitly called such.

Wilson 6500 00:45, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Dragon Knight in X-2?
Where is a dragon knight playable in X-2? as far as i'm aware, there's no dressphere nor accessory that allows you to jump, or wield a spear.


 * I'm not aware of a Dragoon dressphere either. I'll change it. &mdash;  warpedmirror  ( talk ) 18:53, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Merge
As per discussion at the Jobs sub-project of WPFF, this article will be merged into Final Fantasy character classes unless there is convincing argument to be made that it's notable enough for its own article. Most of the information on this page could be merged into the individual games' pages as well as the main character classes article. Please comment here or at the talk page for the project. -RaCha&#39;ar 21:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Though I support some of the other ones, I think this one is notable enough to have its own article as so many Final Fantasy characters are classified as Dragon Knights. Geg 00:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with Geg; while Bard, Beastmaster, and the like should be merged, the Dragon Knight page should stay. It's surely as notable a class as Red and Blue Mages. If anything, this page should be expanded and improved upon. 24.42.246.206 16:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 * RaCha'ar, could you please remove the merge tag now that we're done the discussion on it? If someone like me removes it, someone will just revert it. 142.167.154.187 13:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops, sorry about that. :) -RaCha&#39;ar 21:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)