Talk:Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud

Pusha T did not diss drake in duppy freestyle
check the full song chronology table where pharells track is mentioned especially where description is added, pusha t dissed drake in a track story of adidon as a response to duppy freestyle, duppy freestyle is a song made by drake and is used to dissed kanye and pusha t

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Adidon is the pusha t's diss toward drake 39.58.234.130 (talk) 20:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Juneteenth show adds?
Dr Dre and Ty$ are already added but what about the other people who preformed. Dom Kennedy, Steve Lacy, Tyler, the Creator, Roddy Ricch, YG, Schoolboy Q, Jay Rock, Ab-Soul along with the openers; Mustard and DJ Hed ThyOfThee (talk) 19:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I'll add YG since he not only was on stage but is going to appear in the NLU music video. I think the TDE artists are probably a given, though I wouldn't oppose their addition. Delukiel (talk) 15:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

"Parties"
I think it's most accurate to remove everyone other than Drake and Lamar from the infobox "Parties" entry.

Drake and Lamar dissed each other on their own songs (except Like That, a Future song). Including a list of single artist who has dissed Drake or Lamar since March 2024 is outside the scope of the infobox.

Every other song, by other artists, made independent of Drake/Lamar and without their cosign is only tangentially related to the two artist's beef. Those songs aren't included in the "Works" entry. Including the artists who recorded them it the "Parties" entry is inconsistent.

Risedemise (talk) 02:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I undid this edit, sorry. I think you should wait for more consensus before making such a big change.
 * That said, I don't have a particularly strong opinion on this. The way I see it, it could be a few ways:
 * Artists who directly made or contributed tracks about the beef, so Metro, Rick Ross, and Kanye on Kendrick's side for example but not YG. Maybe The Game on Drake's?
 * Artists who publicly supported them, which is more or less what it is currently, but this could get unwieldy
 * Removing the parties section altogether.
 * I think I'm most partial to the first. It keeps the list short, keeps relevant info in the infobox, and avoids it becoming unwieldly which I think is the risk of number 2. Number 3 I'm not totally opposed to but I think it sort of defeats the point of having a "parties" section to begin with, since the page already says Drake–Kendrick feud. I also would prefer us to have a quick way to say who supports who, but I'm not going to be mad or anything if it's gone. Delukiel (talk) 04:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I removed it without waiting because it's better to err on the side of lacking information than including potentially incorrect information.
 * My concern about "Artists who directly made or contributed tracks about the beef" is I think it may imply coordination/support that didn't actually happen. To put it simply it seems like everyone is taking shots at Drake, rather than supporting Lamar, which I think the Parties entry implies.
 * "Artists who publicly supported them, which is more or less what it is currently". It's missing Drake's supporters. See Drake–Kendrick Lamar feud. And I think this is a bad idea, because commenting support is barely contributing. And plenty of other celebrities and critics have commented, too, so why the distinction for musicians? This list would definitely be too long for the infobox. Risedemise (talk) 07:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * These are good points. I do think it'd probably be lopsided in favor of Kendrick even if we stick to the first one, but didn't Game release a track dissing Ross because Ross was posting on Instagram? There's one person at least.
 * To be honest it really just seems nobody really showed up for Drake, even though he was expecting people to, so I think it'd be accurate to that extent. But like I said I don't have a very strong opinion on this, so I'm indifferent to whatever the end result is. Delukiel (talk) 20:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I also think the "since" dates may be misleading, as most of the parties listed have only released a single song related to this feud. Risedemise (talk) 07:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Bbl Drizzy in songs involved?
BBL Drizzy was technically a diss targeted at drake therefore it should be under song involved. ArizonacardinalsFan (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It's already under related works. Delukiel (talk) 20:19, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Can it really be said that the feud is "ongoing"?
The only new content after the "heart part 6" is a music video for "not like us". It really seems like both sides are sorta done with the beef. Ahmed0112 (talk) 03:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Until we have a source saying it's over, we have to assume it's ongoing. If some time from now there's still nothing, then we can alter how the dating of this feud is presented. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I would actually disagree with this, insofar as we already have sources say it's over (mainly from TDE). However I agree with your conclusion, because I don't think that Drake and Lamar will ever patch this up. It'll probably be ongoing forever. Delukiel (talk) 01:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I would even argue the opposite, i.e. that you hardly say that the feud is over at this point (depending on how you define "feud") or that the two are "done with the beef"... Not just because it's only been two days since the music video and barely three weeks since the Pop Out concert but also because of the nature of the feud. Personally, I think this will be ongoing for a while (see other long-standing rap feuds). Although, as Pbritti said, we may alter the presentation if there's really nothing new some time from now. Felida97 (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Yuno Miles intervention?
Yuno Miles created what is probably the most famous verse on the BBL Drizzy beat, even if it was of a comedic nature. Should his freestyle be at least mentioned under the section about BBL Drizzy? TheBigGuyBillyBob (talk) 13:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * If there are no reliable sources, it should not be included. See WP:RELIABLE. Spinixster   (trout me!)  08:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What qualifies as a reliable source? And what would it be a source for? TheBigGuyBillyBob (talk) 18:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I've already linked the relevant page explaining reliable sources. For a list of it, see WP:RSP. The source should mention Yuno Miles's BBL Drizzy verse. Spinixster   (trout me!)  06:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)