Talk:Drake University/Archive 1

news section
Wikipedia is not a newspaper. The page doesn't need a news section, and I find it hard to believe that the archway donation merits its place in the article. I will leave it for someone else to eliminate who agrees with me on this. Zeus1233 09:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that this page needs some work.

I've changed this page completely. Drake's page needed a massive overhaul.


 * The page 'does' need an overhaul, but the way to do it is not to copyvio other Web pages and copy them into this one. Please rewrite the sections in an encyclopedic manner. Cut and paste work will be reverted as copyright violation because this site is released under the WP:GFDL. Thanks. --FCYTravis 10:47, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Also, do not remove the cleanup notice to the page.  It is designed to get other people to come aid us in improving the page.  This is a community effort.  Cheers. --BaronLarf 23:25, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * I just fixed three spelling errors- kind of embarassing on a college page. The rankings section needs more concrete information and external links would be nice. --AAMiller 1 July 2005 18:20 (UTC)

copyright and other violations
I am a Drake student and am very knowledgable of Drake facts. The information I post should not be deleted under any circumstances. tywhat@yahoo.com

However, when you post information that may be copy vio *see Jeremy Sievers below* then it should be deleted. Furthermore, I am not a "freshmen" and I live in the "freshmen" halls despite the "http://www.choose.drake.edu/admissions/life/halls.asp" claim of 100% freshmen. Also, as a general question for everyone...Should we consider US News ranking as a legitimate and necessary assessment of a colleges rank compared to other colleges? --Wikisermons 09:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the list of noted alumni as that content plagiarized from our program sheets carry specific direction from our alum. That specific information is held in confidence and not allowed by request of alum to be used in a manner other then how we are utilizing it on our site.

The content related to Drake University has not come from our institution directly and does not reflect accurate and up-to-date information. Most information has been plagiarized from old documents and should be considered inaccurate.

Jeremy Sievers - Director, Web Communication Drake University


 * Could you please clarify how that is plagarism? That information has been taken directly from Drake's admission website, where it is readily available for anyone to view, and not from program sheets. If those webpages are old, or any of the content on this page, you should either let the webmaster know or update this page to make it more current. Most of the information on this page is actually taken from various places that are updated reguarly. Thanks for your concern but please clarify more so this page can be accuratly maintained. Iamblueman4 22:20, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

In what way is my revert a copyright violation? I reworded some of the content that was taken from other pages. What I don't get is this: if I take info from another webpage, then I get blasted for supposed copyright violations. If I write the stuff myself, then someone reverts it and claims that it needs to be NPOV or can't be verified. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a primary source, or so I've been told, so where is the harm in taking information from another webpage? If Wikipedia's rules state that it needs to be reworded, then thats fine, I can do that. Iamblueman4 17:40, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Well, as for the copyvio - I would point you to the following history entries: and, as for your most recent edit being a reversion to a previous version, I would point you to this diff. If you have further questions, please reply. Thanks for asking, rather than just reverting without discussion. JesseW 19:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) (cur) (last)  01:34, 16 August 2005 Lotsofissues (RV all the way back to April 30, see discussion info was copied from admissions site, admissions office worker even points this out)
 * 2) (cur) (last) 00:14, 16 August 2005 JesseW (rm copyvio material from http://www.drake.edu/about/)
 * 3) (cur) (last) 00:05, 16 August 2005 JesseW m (rm copyvio material from http://cert-front.martindale.com/xp/Martindale/Professional_Resources/Law_Schools/schl0221.xml)

How does taking information from another website, especially when that site may be the only source of certain information, qualify as a copyright violation? Is it because I didn't re-word it? If thats the case, I'll reword things. The issue with the admissions person was a little shifty, that person tried to claim that I couldn't display the fact that certain alumni graduated from Drake. Iamblueman4 21:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, you need to reword it, or quote(with attribution) small(i.e. one sentence or so) sections if necessary. Reorganizing the material would also be helpful in making it clear that it is not a derived work of the original web page.  It is not acceptable to copy specifc phrasings of facts from any outside source unless you are sure it is available for us to use  If you would like to try reprhasing and reorganizing(and attributing, of course) some of the material you attempted to add, I would be glad to look it over and make any suggestions that come to mind.  Thanks again for discussing on the talk page first. JesseW 07:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Fine arts?
Is there a reason that this page omits any mention of fine arts degrees at Drake? To read this page one would think that there are no music, theatre, or art departments, much less majors in those fields. Last I knew these were majors in the College of Arts and Sciences... Skleppin 00:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Rankings
"Drake continues to be ranked No. 2 in reputation for academic quality (peer assessment)." According to what ranking? Who did this ranking? This needs a citation badly, or it will be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattfredrikson (talk • contribs) 04:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

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