Talk:Dramaturgy

Intercultural Dramaturgy
Dramaturgy is not a solely greek/european tradition. There are works of especially Indian scholars on the field. I hope somebody can contribute with more interculturally oriented information on the subject. --Xact (talk) 01:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

description better in suomi article suggest incorp here
So here is a google translation of that (as wikipedia seems to require a translation now of non english sources - yet another pointless (becasue google translater is there for free if anyone really needs to see the translation) restriction on an encyclopedia "anyone" can edit.)

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Dramaturgy of the aesthetics of drama, drama drama theory or science [1] means a material, usually changing the text or the organization of drama or motion. Mostly we talk about the dramaturgy of theater context, but can also talk about such a movie, concert or other event in dramaturgy. In all these cases, the dramaturgy means broadly defined how the motion or event, the different elements are arranged and rytmittyvät. Dramaturgy is required in understanding the material and their own perspective on the discovery and esityksellisten draamallisten and management of resources and knowledge.

When originally other genres, such as poetry or prose , the material held in drama or a presentation, talking about the material dramatization. Often such novels dramatize elokuvakäsikirjoituksiksi or a play. Yet the drama text written in the context of dramatization is often referred to when the drama text is interpreted output.

Theatre Academy of dramaturgy training program to educate students as well as dramatized in the existing material and to write plays. Adapted has traditionally meant that professional title, which organizes the existing material in motion, even if the training program will educate its students also playwright and drama of the translator 's tasks.

In practice, often the motion dramaturge may also act as a theater director. Dramaturgy and pilot activities are partly overlapping, and many industry-skilled work in both roles. For this reason, Finland, at the Theatre Academy students dramaturge and director student's curriculum includes both training in the field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.231.182.113 (talk) 10:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

shaping a story or like elements
"Dramaturgy can also be defined, more broadly, as shaping a story or like elements into a form that can be acted." This seems to me to be a more narrow definition, unless the elements are more broadly defined. An encylopedic article must be understandable to someone who knows little about the subject: most people do not realize that a drama consists of a lot more than "story and like elements". People don't realize that all of the various props and costumes and extras, each one of them is chosen to have a supporting role. Is there a book sitting in sight? what book is it? Does a particular character have glasses? are they on, off, sitting on the book, put away in their case... That is one tiny piece of one tiny scene, and yet the dramaturge answers these questions for every single detail in every single frame of a drama. A character does not put on glasses for verisimilitude, because that matches with what people do in the real world; a character puts on glasses when the author wants to say "murky things in this work are about to be made clear to the hero".


 * You are describing the work of a director, not a dramaturge. DionysosProteus 02:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Shakespearean dramaturgy
my apologies for the different "feel" that my additions about Shakespearean dramaturgy have from the previous text, and for the depth accorded to a narrow area that has a number of other articles already written about it. But what I added seems dramaturgical, and is not found in those other places, so this seemed like the to put it. It's an important and widely not understood area of drama: I actually was looking for a place to put the information so I could go to the spoiler page and give people a basis to understand why spoilers aren't spoiling for everyone.

July 23. I've removed the Shakespeare stuff, troubled by the fact that its assertions are unsourced, and that attitudes supposedly held by Shakespeare's audience (but which are totally conjectural) are stated as fact. I also found the style grossly out of keeping with what would be acceptable in an encyclopedia. An analysis of Shakespearan dramaturgy would certainly be in keeping here, but I think something more professional and better documented is needed.


 * do you actually know anything about Shakespearean dramaturgy? Because you are dead wrong that what was in the article was "questionable"; it's completely mainstream. You're like the Taliban destroying those ancient Buddhist statues: why don't you try researching and improving, rather than just deleting things you personally don't understand. It used to be the wikipedia credo that it was better to add information even if it was not in perfect form.

deeper basis for classical dramaturgy
seems like the article could use some additions about the way ancient and traditional stories are told, like myths, the story of Genesis, the story of Jesus, etc. The stories that appealed to our ancestors in many ways fit classical forms; there is a resonance with something within us.


 * yes, definitely, and even today stories that fail to fit the classical forms often make for beutiful movies that we want to like and pretend we like, but which leave us feeling completely unsatisfied. That recent 6 hour epic about the Italian brothers and their families and friends, for instance.

This article sucks, you should give an actual situation and give an dramtergical analysis of it.

Merge?
Should we merge the dramaturge artical into this one? Struds 22:24, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

IPA pronunciation
An IPA pronunciation should be added. I'd add it, but I'm not sure how to pronounce this word. –Justin Force 05:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

the urge to dramatize
I am not in the least surprised to read that copyright issues have been involved in this extremely fuzzy area.

The Greek word occurs extremely seldom in classical writers. The term was 'coined' by Lessing and had some meaning for him and others. By the beginning of the 20th cent. the activities of 'directing' and 'producing' had largely taken its place, until once again (unfortunately) it was re-introduced in Germany in the late 60s.

Germans seem to like excavating terms from ancient languages, perhaps because they are able to theorize them and cock a snook at other language traditions. Writing books about them also provides German academics with gainful employment. Pamour (talk) 19:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Whilst your claim about the predilections of "Germans" conveys something of your personal prejudices, it is not based in sound observation or reasoning. A more objective analysis would reveal that the "excavations" to which you refer are more to do with the inclinations of individuals from many cultural and national backgrounds and, yes, such predilections are plentiful amongst academics of many disciplines (sic), for whom they often form the basis for gainful (sic) employment.  Indeed, your claim could be seen to demonstrate that you "seem to like" excavations of your own, albeit ones built on rather shaky ground.

(I have no preference for or against perceived nation-based "likes", but admit to a preference for accuracy over emotive, unsubstantiated claims). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.118.89.250 (talk) 19:45, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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American dramaturgy
Hi all, I am writing on behalf of LMDA (Literary Managers and Dramaturgs of America). We are a non-profit volunteer membership organization representing dramaturgs in America, Mexico, and Canada.

One of our big projects this year is to clarify the public information about dramaturgy, particularly how it has functioned in the American theater in the 20th and 21st century. We have copy for an entry ready to go as written by Anne Cattaneo, longtime dramaturg at Lincoln Center Theater in New York.

If we were to lay this into the Wikipedia page for dramaturgy, how could we go about guaranteeing that it will remain? We are doing this on behalf of the membership organization, and therefore it is (we think) as legit as possible!

Thanks for any help. Rsasch327 (talk) 17:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Welcome to wikipedia! You are welcome to make edits to the entry, though I'd recommend you familiarize yourself with the wikipedia policies first. There's no guarantee of permanence, instead this is a collaborative approach where an entry evolves over time with the input of its participants. A good way to start is to propose some edits in the talk page and develop from there. Justinkrivers (talk) 17:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)