Talk:Dream/Killer

Title capitalization
This article is given the lower case title of "dream/killer". However, several sources, including Netflix, spell the article with capitals, such as "Dream/Killer". Where does the lower case orthography originate from? Because this orthography is not consistently shown in the sources, should it be used by Wikipedia as the common name for the film? - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with your concern., where does the lowercase titling come from? I am not seeing that titling at all on the Netflix page or in the film poster, nor in secondary sources. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 17:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * and : I would say the lower-casing comes from the film itself, which shows its title at 00:00:46 seconds in all lower-case. Looking through different references online, I see a mix, with Netflix using regular casing (like you point out), as well as other sources doing the same. However, the NYTimes article uses the lower-case version, as does the write-up on the director's (Andrew Jenks) wiki page. Same goes for the film page from Tribecca. My feeling is the all lower-case is the intended representation, but this probably has been glossed over by a lot of sources. However, I would defer to people more knowledgeable as to what is best for the article's title. CaptainAngus (talk) 02:11, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There are several criteria for an article title, which need to be not only recognizable, but also natural, precise, concise, and consistent with the naming pattern of similar articles. Titles should also be non-judgmental and descriptive. Capitalizing the name of the film as "Dream/Killer" is consistent with naming other film articles. Using all lower case for the film title, as in "dream/killer", is more about the font style or orthography of the title. It does not change the meanings of the words used. Other films use a single case in there title, for example the Star Wars series of films all spell their main title in a particular font. Other films use all capitals, yet only initial capitals are used in articles about the films. Why should this article be different? The sources appear inconsistent at using the all lower case title, while the NYTimes and Tribecca sources might remain faithful to the film title, others are not. The number of sources that capitalize the initial letters in the title words suggests the common name for this film is more likely to be "Dream/Killer", than "dream/killer", so I think the article needs to explain where the lower case orthography comes from and why it is being used. I don't have a big issue with an all lower case title because there are some sources you can cite, but if there are sources that explain why all lower case has been used, and its significance, that might help justify retaining the existing title in all lower case. Simply saying it is the film's official title is not enough, because many sources don't follow the capitalization, which suggests the the official title is not the common name. Cite me a source which explains the capitalization, and incorporate the reason for the lower cases use in the article. Meanwhile, also consider a redirect from "Dream/Killer". - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining where the lowercase titling comes from! I agree that Dream/Killer is the WP:COMMONNAME here, and I would support moving the article to that title, and we can write the opening sentence as "Dream/Killer, stylized onscreen as dream/killer" per MOS:TMSTYLE. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 15:16, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * and : That sounds good to me. There was no deeper intent on my part than mimicking what I thought was the correct representation. That being said... what is the best way to achieve this rename? Will selecting "move" from the article's page accomplish this change? Thanks! CaptainAngus (talk) 01:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, moving the page will do the job, so I was bold and moved the page. What remains to be done is clean up some double redirects and edit the article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:29, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Completed! Article edited and redirects cleaned up to point to the current article location and avoid double redirects. Happy editing! - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thank you both! CaptainAngus (talk) 13:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * New approach looks good! Happy editing to both of you. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 13:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)